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Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:53 am to Ostrich
quote:You could argue that, but in fact IAW the law it isn't and they don't.
I would argue that is their prerogative as a business
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:53 am to Ostrich
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Because his son now has a pre-existing condition. Should an insurance company be forced to cover him?
I am assuming he had insurance and they were forced to cover
Do I not understand the situation?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:54 am to BamaAtl
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decision about your child's life
Back on this, are we?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:55 am to buckeye_vol
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He said his experience shows why all Americans need access to health care
You think this statement does not mean Obamacare?
That's fine. I disagree though.
To me, it's clearly about Obamacare.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:55 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Back on this, are we?
Helpful to have a non-abstract case that fits it perfectly.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:56 am to thelawnwranglers
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I am assuming he had insurance and they were forced to cover
If he didn't have it, should an insurance company now be allowed to deny him coverage? if so, for how long? The rest of his life?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:57 am to roadGator
quote:No. I don't. Trump's had proposed covering preexisting conditions too. Besides they explicitly mention research funding, so if they wanted to mention Obamacare they could have.
You think this statement does not mean Obamacare?
That's fine. I disagree though.
To me, it's clearly about Obamacare.
Regardless, access to healthcare is not completely synonymous with insurance either.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:57 am to thelawnwranglers
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“If your baby is going to die and it doesn’t have to it shouldn’t matter how much money you make,” he said.
Where is this actually taking place? I have two young children. Was at the hospital for both births and I guarantee there were people there at the same time who were uninsured but still having a baby. The funny thing is they received the EXACT same level of great care that my wife and child received. I doubt anyone's child was in danger of dying simply because their parent may have been poor. The better question was: "why the frick did I cut a large check immediately upon arrival at the hospital if I could have gotten the same level of care for 'free'"?
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“No parent should ever have to decide if they can afford to save their child’s life,”
If you child is in need of emergency health care, any parent in the country can take them to the ER where they will receive world class care immediately. This even applies to parents who are not even legally in this country.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:57 am to udtiger
Kimmel's monologue about his son was actually pretty genuine and correct. It wasn't overly political, it wasn't propaganda.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:58 am to thelawnwranglers
Regardless of where that kid was born and to who, he would have gotten the surgery. (In the U.S.)
It's a ridiculous action to politicize the health issue of your child.
Had that happened to my child, bitching about Trump, or Hillary or any other politician would be the furthest thing from my mind.
Nothing any politician has done or not done had any affect on that child's health or healthcare.
It's a ridiculous action to politicize the health issue of your child.
Had that happened to my child, bitching about Trump, or Hillary or any other politician would be the furthest thing from my mind.
Nothing any politician has done or not done had any affect on that child's health or healthcare.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:58 am to BamaAtl
If? I thought this was the perfect example for your bleeding heart argument?
Would you trade Obamacare repealed and tweaked for voter ID cards and tighter immigration laws?
Would you trade Obamacare repealed and tweaked for voter ID cards and tighter immigration laws?
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 11:01 am
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:00 am to buckeye_vol
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Regardless, access to healthcare is not completely synonymous with insurance either.
For the vast majority of Americans it actually is.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:00 am to BamaAtl
Sure, go ahead and link all the children dying in the streets because their parents were denied health insurance.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:00 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:He hardly politicized it, and to whatever extent he did (research funding), the OP politicized it far more.
It's a ridiculous action to politicize the health issue of your child.
quote:Good. What does that have to do with Kimmel?
Had that happened to my child, bitching about Trump, or Hillary or any other politician would be the furthest thing from my mind.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:01 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I had to dodge piles of dead children around the emergency room last week. You don't have that wherever you moved?
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:02 am to roadGator
quote:Sure, and his statements are pretty much consistent with the bipartisan support for that. The OP was the one who politicized it to this level.
For the vast majority of Americans it actually is.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:03 am to buckeye_vol
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Kimmel used his personal story to blast President Donald Trump for trying to cut $6 billion in funding from the National Institutes of Health, and he applauded Congress for doing the opposite and increasing funding by $2 billion.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:03 am to Bjorn Cyborg
I think his point is that you shouldn't have to go bankrupt to get the necessary care for your child.
Ok, the child will get the surgery, but the parents will also get a bill that they will be paying off forever.
He is also made a point about the need for medical research funding, which has nothing to do with O-care.
Ok, the child will get the surgery, but the parents will also get a bill that they will be paying off forever.
He is also made a point about the need for medical research funding, which has nothing to do with O-care.
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