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re: What does Jimmy Kimmel's Kids Heart Problem have to do with ObamaCare?

Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:29 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:29 am to
No deflection. If you won't deny it, we're all good. Now that you've conceded the first two points, which was next?

Charts?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63918 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:41 am to
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If it's so silly, why are we the only developed country that hasn't adopted it?
Popularity isn't an argument of merit. Our country is unique in many ways. We aren't a superpower because we're just like everybody else.

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Because they might be on the other side of the ledger tomorrow.
You are really poor at evaluating risk if you are trying to use this argument.

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This is a good point, but in the opposite way that you meant it. Vaccination of a population works largely because of the concept of herd immunity.
nope. If that were the case we'd not isolate people with doeseases but rather expose them to as many people as possible.

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Because there's a chance that you'll need it
You "analogy" fails. There is a 0% chance I will need Jimmy Kimmels kids heart health to benefit my kid.

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Great analogy, thanks for broaching it!
Thansk for the word salad. It's interesting seems no the inner workings of delusion.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:11 am to
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If that were the case we'd not isolate people with doeseases but rather expose them to as many people as possible.


Vaccination =/= infection. Obviously.

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There is a 0% chance I will need Jimmy Kimmels kids heart health to benefit my kid.



Many CHDs are first diagnosed in teens and young adults (even up to late 30s). And what about your grandkids?

Again, thanks for the opportunity to demonstrate that vaccination was a good analogy, though not as you intended!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63918 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:29 am to
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Vaccination =/= infection. Obviously.
Indeed. There is no acquired immunity from mooching. If we enable people to mooch, it doesn't stop more people from doing it. Opposite actually. It encourages more if it. Thus, it's an infection not an inoculation. Which is why your perversion of an analogy doesn't work.

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Many CHDs are first diagnosed in teens and young adults (even up to late 30s). And what about your grandkids?
Diagnosing Kimmels kid doesn't diagnose my kid. My kid shares nothing with Jimmy Kimmels kids. Other than paying for them and suffering a diminished future because of it.

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thanks for the opportunity to demonstrate that vaccination was a good analogy
Classic Dunning Krueger behavior.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:23 pm to
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There is no acquired immunity from mooching.


Immunity from not being covered if you become seriously ill, sure. Someone's always going to pay more into the pool than they get out of it.

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If we enable people to mooch, it doesn't stop more people from doing it.


Agreed, which is why the individual mandate was so key.

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Diagnosing Kimmels kid doesn't diagnose my kid. My kid shares nothing with Jimmy Kimmels kids.


You missed the point entirely - you cannot definitively say that your kid (or their kids) will never have a pre-existing condition - CHD was used because it's what Kimmel's kid has and conveniently lends itself to diagnosis later in life, so saying your kid will never have it is naive, at best.
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