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re: What do we think RFK will actually do regarding our food?

Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39833 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:56 pm to
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The point is… while arguing that nutritionists don’t know what they’re talking about, the fact is what you do know and trust about nutrition comes from science/nutritionists.
I'm not the one who made the original comment, but how does this work for you:

Vast swaths of the medical-health-industrial complex - doctors, nurses, nutritionists, dietitians etc. - are trapped in a doom loop of the bullshite conventional wisdom of the past 60 years. So, yes, while ultimately it's informed nutritionists/science which provides our info, the problem is, the vast majority of practitioners (including corrupted scientists perpetually on the take from big food/pharm) are nearly entirely captured.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 6:57 pm to
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the vast majority of practitioners (including corrupted scientists perpetually on the take from big food/pharm) are nearly entirely captured.


Vast majority of practitioners? We talking healthcare providers or researchers (or both)? And in what realms/fields?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:01 pm to
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Or, the government could just mandate that all of the harmful chemicals be taken out of food


The thing about gov mandates is they're often used for things we really like to keep or have.

They pick winners and losers and dont ever do things solely based on it being right or wrong.

This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:02 pm to
I just want someone to explain to me how all of this is not leftism
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:03 pm to
That's the word mandate, use any term you like, it doesn't have to be a bad thing in this situation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:04 pm to
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I just want someone to explain to me how all of this is not leftism


Based on various conversations over the past week, I dont think it bothers them to be thought of as leftists anymore.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:06 pm to
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That's the word mandate, use any term you like, it doesn't have to be a bad thing in this situation.


Good luck having this government control not affect you negatively..

Because thats exactly what will happen.

People often use the term "slippery slope" and if you believe in one, we are absolutely on a steep one right here.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
2229 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:17 pm to
You want to breathe asbestos? Go right ahead.
The problem is you’re too short sighted to understand that our government AND corporations have been working hand in hand for decades to line each other’s pockets, grow in size and erode our rights.
RFK is literally trying to reform the institutions from within, which in turn gives the people more power over their own lives.

Get it?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16382 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:30 pm to
One big impact he can have is exposing the pharma industry for their corruption and non transparency

For instance

It’s pretty widely believed that people who carry out mass shootings, are influenced by SSRI uptake inhibitors like Prozac etc.
The pharma industry is petrified that it’ll even be given a hearing.

Rfk can shed some light on it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476304 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:37 pm to
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For instance

It’s pretty widely believed that people who carry out mass shootings, are influenced by SSRI uptake inhibitors like Prozac etc.


A great example of the "kernel of truth" leading to faulty extrapolation (via replacing correlation with causation)
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298489 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:43 pm to
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The problem is you’re too short sighted to understand that our government AND corporations have been working hand in hand for decades to line each other’s pockets, grow in size and erode our rights.


That sounds like something right out of a populist dream.

So your answer is more govt control.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:46 pm to
I just want to know that I'm eating actual oatmeal when I buy a box of oatmeal, and whether or not my bread is 4% yoga mat.

In a government where greed isn't the top order, things like this aren't an issue.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15708 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Most of the public hadn't seen any olive oil.


Olive oil has been readily available in the US for better than a century.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38301 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:30 pm to
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Saving incompetent people is how we got where we are. The nanny state is a direct afront to natural evolution.
The history of the human race is a direct affront to "natural evolution", Roger. The first humans to develop the empathy to give a few food scraps to wolves or eat a little less so their crippled father could make it another day were at odds with evolution. Humans have been defying natural selection for millennia. It's the reason we're kind of a big deal on this planet.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1941 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:36 pm to
He may be able to ban some of the more toxic food additives like the EU has done but nothing extreme.

And he will probably be more aggressive in labeling processed foods that have chemicals in them.

But your daily life wont change. It is still on you to make good or bad choices.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43151 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 9:41 pm to
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And their bread is WAAAAAY better.


Chocolate too. Food tastes so much better there.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20184 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:17 pm to
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I imagine we could look up some old threads over super liberal areas regulating/banning things like, soda, and we will find some 180s.


Funny thing is via education and research, your opinions can change. I used to drink Mt Dew daily. Then switched to Diet Mt Dew because I wanted a “healthier option”. Then I learned about glycemic index and how artificial sweeteners actually impact you worse than true sugar. That was like 20 years ago.

Right before Covid and all through it I got much more aware of the impact of diet. None of this was taught in my nutritional classes back in college. I continue to enhance my knowledge base. There is no reason in the world we need high fructose corn syrup, processed seed oils and dyes in our food other than to make companies money.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20184 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:20 pm to
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So using way less ingredients will make the cost more? Please explain that one for the group


Explain how economies of scale won’t impact the healthier options. Now the market for healthy food coloring is limited. As it expands there will be more produced and prices will go down eventually.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39799 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Vast swaths of the medical-health-industrial complex - doctors, nurses, nutritionists, dietitians etc. - are trapped in a doom loop of the bullshite conventional wisdom of the past 60 years. So, yes, while ultimately it's informed nutritionists/science which provides our info, the problem is, the vast majority of practitioners (including corrupted scientists perpetually on the take from big food/pharm) are nearly entirely captured.


This doesn't make any sense.

You guys have a corrupted notion of how much patients actually listen.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25396 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:54 pm to
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I do. When he says there are only 3 ingredients in french fries in Europe yet there are 17 ingredients in fries in the States then just what the hell are we putting in our bodies that the government seems to be okay with?


quote:

The nanny state breeds idiocy.

Europe is self annihilating, do you want that too?


Hey frick off. Have you read the label on a box of cereal in the last 10 years? I don't know what any of this shite is and you don't either.
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