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re: What did Trump mean with these tweets?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:05 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:05 am to Vacherie Saint
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This thread is mental masturbation for a narcissistic lawyer.
No and No.
This is more about getting people on record and having a reference when people deny the repayment to Cohen.
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:05 am to Vacherie Saint
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Why are we talking about Stormy Daniels right now?
TDS is the answer
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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It is a misdemeanor that can be enhanced to a felony (if the record fraud was in furtherance of a crime).
Step one is to prove that a misdemeanor was committed. What is the misdemeanor?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:07 am to TomShelby
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You have some of the worst tds ever
CORRECT
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Trump paid her so what?
exactly. WGAF?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is more about getting people on record
This is so fricking pathetic.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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The DA is going to have to tie the campaign stuff into the fraud
You rely on tweets in the OP as the foundation of your argument, but you want to ignore the part about this not being campaign finance.
You rely on Cohen's testimony to the Grand Jury, but ignore his own attorney's statement that contradicts it, and decide it's "patriots" fault for believing it.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is more about getting people on record and having a reference when people deny the repayment to Cohen.
except these tweets dont prove that.... Nor does repayment imply a crime.
so what are we doing here?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:09 am to moneyg
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And, you have hundreds of other posts like this attempting to justify the charges against Trump.
Nope. Fantasy land.
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You have TDS.
Not in the least.
Trump was a politician I had some hope in who failed largely at all the things I thought he could do. He had a pretty impotent administration with chaotic management.
He can get thrown in the bin of other pols I had hope in who failed or were ineffective. I don't have any emotional response to Trump in the least.
I think the data show he's not electable, though. Again that's just basic rationality given the data for winning the EC and what we've seen post-2016 in actual elections.
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It's very much like your Omicron fear. You probably had hundreds of posts talking about how hospitals would be overrun, how those who are unvaccinated should be held civilly liable, etc. But, you fall back on a singular statement where you acknowledge that Omicron may in fact be mild.
I was happy that Omicron came and was mild.
The civil liability was early on in Covid about a previous strain. The hospital thread was something else. both were actually discussions about personal responsibility (and the internalized perception of what that means to posters) and not Covid directly. It was pretty clear but people couldn't help but be emotional and not melt down
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with an embarrassing legal argument.
What legal argument, exactly?
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embarrassing display of TDS
Incorrect.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:10 am to Vacherie Saint
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This thread is mental masturbation for a narcissistic lawyer. He's Lt. Daniel Kaffee right now, prosecuting the unwinnable case.
nail on the head
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:11 am to GumboPot
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Step one is to prove that a misdemeanor was committed. What is the misdemeanor?
The argument is the repayment structure to Cohen was done intentionally to hide Trump from these payments. They had to structure it this way for tax reasons, too.
If they "hid" a $130k repayment in 5, $50k payments, then it's not keeping accurate records. That could trigger the law.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:13 am to moneyg
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You rely on tweets in the OP as the foundation of your argument, but you want to ignore the part about this not being campaign finance.
The underlying crime is not about campaign finance.
His attempts to bring felony charges requires it, which, as I said, is not likely to even survive a motion to dismiss.
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You rely on Cohen's testimony to the Grand Jury
Where?
Have I referenced Cohen's testimony to the GJ once on this site? Ever?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:14 am to Vacherie Saint
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except these tweets dont prove that..
He literally says in the first tweet Cohen was repaid
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Nor does repayment imply a crime.
That's up to the prosecutor and judge/jury, not me.
I don't think it will stick, but I'm not part of the process.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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The argument is the repayment structure to Cohen was done intentionally to hide Trump from these payments. They had to structure it this way for tax reasons, too.
If they "hid" a $130k repayment in 5, $50k payments, then it's not keeping accurate records. That could trigger the law.
Step two is to prove that this was a felony act because it led to the furtherance of a crime. What crime did Trump commit by hiding the payments (if the misdemeanor is proven)?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:19 am to GumboPot
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Step two is to prove that this was a felony act because it led to the furtherance of a crime
I have already said this would not likely withstand real scrutiny. We're not at that stage, yet, though.
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What crime did Trump commit by hiding the payments (if the misdemeanor is proven)?
We don't know, but the theory is he's going to try to tie in campaign finance violations (Cohen has already pled to them)
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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What did Trump mean with these tweets?
TDS alert!
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:21 am to BurntOrangeMan
OK I will give you that one. That was creative.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 8:21 am
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Tweets are not proof. Dude. No one thinks Cohen paid this out of the kindness of his heart. He was obviously on a fat retainer and knew he would eventually be made whole on Trump's nickel. What you wont find is; a receipt for reimbursement for the NDA of Stormy Daniels from the campaign. Until you have that, or even a consistent accusation that that happened, stfu.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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I was happy that Omicron came and was mild.
I'm sure you were. But, you were unmistakably scared of Omicron when it arrived and people laughed at you for it.
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The civil liability was early on in Covid about a previous strain. The hospital thread was something else. both were actually discussions about personal responsibility (and the internalized perception of what that means to posters) and not Covid directly. It was pretty clear but people couldn't help but be emotional and not melt down
Yes, it was everyone else. It wasn't you.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trump
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mean
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tweets
I sure could use some
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:36 am to Vacherie Saint
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What you wont find is; a receipt for reimbursement for the NDA of Stormy Daniels from the campaign.
Nobody is making campaign finance violations from the repayment except as a secondary argument not at issue in this thread.
Also the fact that you won't find a receipt like that from the Trump organization is the very basis for the prosecution as weak or strong as that argument might be
If that receipt existed and a one for one payment existed then there would be no argument or angle for this sham prosecution
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 8:37 am
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