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re: What changed political views and the animosity of parties so much in 2000?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:30 am to rpg37
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:30 am to rpg37
1994 when Newt and the Rs took over. Rush became a political heavyweight leading the opposition. Then the Bill and Monica scandal conflated politics, culture, and social norms and we were off and running.
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 2:11 am to beebefootballfan
You are somewhat on the mark here,
at least with the timing.
I went to a dinner hosted by the Alabama Policy Institute where the late Senator Tom Coburn spoke. Coburn was a Republican from Oklahoma. His message regarding President Obama pretty much stunned the crowd. He was highly critical of the birther movement and of those who tried to label Obama as a Muslim, un American or otherwise an illegitimate president.
The following quote on his Wikipedia page might not be word for word, but it pretty much sums up the sentiment-
LINK
2008 was the election where the game truly changed, for both sides. From that point on the concepts of loyal opposition and respectful disagreement on issues went into steep decline.
at least with the timing.
I went to a dinner hosted by the Alabama Policy Institute where the late Senator Tom Coburn spoke. Coburn was a Republican from Oklahoma. His message regarding President Obama pretty much stunned the crowd. He was highly critical of the birther movement and of those who tried to label Obama as a Muslim, un American or otherwise an illegitimate president.
The following quote on his Wikipedia page might not be word for word, but it pretty much sums up the sentiment-
quote:
”I love the man. I think he's a neat man. I don't want him to be president, but I still love him. He is our President. He's my President. And I disagree with him adamantly on 95% of the issues, but that doesn't mean I can't have a great relationship. And that's a model people ought to follow."
LINK
2008 was the election where the game truly changed, for both sides. From that point on the concepts of loyal opposition and respectful disagreement on issues went into steep decline.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:10 am to rpg37
Bareack Hussein Obama.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:16 am to rpg37
Bush and Cheney really went overboard with national security and war. This fires up the radical left.
Obama comes on to the scene and everyone started partying up. You either did or didn't like him. Pick a side.
Then as a response to this and being an absolute leaderless shitshow the Republicans then nominate trump who focuses on driving that wedge further.
Then Democrats have no real answer outside of their own geriatric who says crazy shite so they put up Biden. To try and enjoy some of those Obama term member berries. He doesn't really fix anything cross party though so the divide continues maybe worsens a little but mostly everyone thinks what they think by now.
Fast forward to today both parties continue to fail american and put up terribly unpopular candidates yet have cemented themselves in so deep you can't really oppose them you must pick a side.
Obama comes on to the scene and everyone started partying up. You either did or didn't like him. Pick a side.
Then as a response to this and being an absolute leaderless shitshow the Republicans then nominate trump who focuses on driving that wedge further.
Then Democrats have no real answer outside of their own geriatric who says crazy shite so they put up Biden. To try and enjoy some of those Obama term member berries. He doesn't really fix anything cross party though so the divide continues maybe worsens a little but mostly everyone thinks what they think by now.
Fast forward to today both parties continue to fail american and put up terribly unpopular candidates yet have cemented themselves in so deep you can't really oppose them you must pick a side.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:45 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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The low IQ voter doesn't know why they hate you- They just do.
Becomes obvious when they can’t have a rational discussion. Instant anger as a simple question shows how little they actually understand their programming.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 3:45 am to rpg37
The Clinton’s
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:16 am to rpg37
Social Media
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:23 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Animosity started when they started openly calling people on the right bad people - See deplorables etc . Started insinuating if you don't support health care for all you are a terrible person. When you don't support abortion your worse than scum. When you don't support gays banging in front of your children - you are a pariah. When they took over HR departments of every big business and started advertising the same non - sense. When they took over academia and infected schools. The low IQ voter doesn't know why they hate you- They just do. The media mind fk combined with very uninformed idiots is a recipe for hate. I have never once stopped being friends with someone with different politics than me but 99pct of leftist who preach that morality BS have attacked family members and stopped being friends with their right wing friends. The world has gone mad.
It's this.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:26 am to lsusa
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2008 was the election where the game truly changed, for both sides. From that point on the concepts of loyal opposition and respectful disagreement on issues went into steep decline
The kind of loyal opposition and respectful disagreement that the original "LITERALLY HITLER" George W Bush received? Nonsense.
This stuff started (at least in earnest, in the way we see things today) when Gore lost to Bush. 9/11 didn't cause it either, 9/11 just delayed it.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:32 am to rpg37
Chads be hangin’
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:47 am to rpg37
I think it was the Monica Lewinsky scandal combined with the 2000 Presidential Election results which did it. 9/11 kinda stopped the bleeding but the animosity between the parties was resurrected in the aftermath of the Iraq War during the 2004 Presidential Election. Since that time the hate has only been getting stronger between Republicans and Democrats.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:49 am to Texdelmag
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Bill Clinton confided in Dick Morris during his first 4 years that it was becoming a struggle to keep the far left crazies under control in the Democratic Party.
Strange as when you consider that all he accomplished in his first term was to raise taxes more than they had ever been raised and ban a bunch of ugly guns.
Only when reined in by Gingrich did he even feign moderation on actual policy.
He did talk a good moderate game, though.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:24 am to ShermanTxTiger
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Gore got screwed in 2000
Lolololol
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:26 am to rpg37
People started believing whatever BS they find on the internet.
The human mind is very susceptible to conspiracies and “smarter than everyone” syndrome.
The human mind is very susceptible to conspiracies and “smarter than everyone” syndrome.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:29 am to rpg37
Marxist switched from economic to racial attacks. It used to be rich vs poor but the communist weren’t getting anywhere with that so they exploited the racial past of America . This pitted white vs black instead of rich vs poor but it’s still the same Marxist ideology of oppressed vs non-oppressed
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:33 am to rpg37
Obama
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:35 am to rpg37
Domestic Propaganda
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:36 am to rpg37
2004.
Kerry beating Edwards in the primary and Crooked Nancy replacing Gephardt as House Minority Leader.
That was the great shift from the Democrats being the party for working stiffs to being the party of global corporations.
But that meant they could no longer court voters on economic issues so they had to use Clown World to divide and conquer.
Kerry beating Edwards in the primary and Crooked Nancy replacing Gephardt as House Minority Leader.
That was the great shift from the Democrats being the party for working stiffs to being the party of global corporations.
But that meant they could no longer court voters on economic issues so they had to use Clown World to divide and conquer.
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:51 am to oklahogjr
quote:
Bush and Cheney really went overboard with national security and war. This fires up the radical left. Obama comes on to the scene and everyone started partying up. You either did or didn't like him. Pick a side. Then as a response to this and being an absolute leaderless shitshow the Republicans then nominate trump who focuses on driving that wedge further
What a fricking idiot
Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:05 am to Vandergriff
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the Bill and Monica scandal conflated politics, culture, and social norms and we were off and running.
That was basically the starting point. Right after that you had the 2000 Election and suddenly there was a fissure in this country that has been growing since.
This country used to have shared experiences. Everyone ended their day watching Johnny Carson and such. Now we’re siloed and seek out echo chambers.
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