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re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?

Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
24816 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Make what stop?


The many different Iran threads, probably. I think this is the third one I’ve seen today alone. All pretty much saying the same thing.

Yeah- Trump probably overlooked the fact there is no negotiation with those who would make or become martyrs to further their cause. So many doom threads about it though.

Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16924 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:01 pm to
Goal post shift. Good Lord, that’s embarrassing.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
15151 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:02 pm to
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I think it's priming them, pushing them to act.

Umm priming who? Pushing who to act? The Iranian people? To rise up against their current leaders? Because, well, that ain't happening. They are STILL more scared of being beheaded by the Iranian loyalists than they are willing to rise up against them. Until that changes, without us putting boots on the ground, we won't be able to make much headway in regime change, right?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159095 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:02 pm to
More of “doom” threads or more GEOTUS threads?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69932 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:02 pm to
That's been an interesting pivot.
"It's not a war."
"It's not a NEW war."
"It's not a FOREVER war."

I will say this conflict is another interesting study in trying to figure out which sources to believe.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

We are now months into this and Iran holds all of the cards.


I admire your tenacity.

your stupidity...... not so much......
Posted by Barfunkle
Basement
Member since May 2025
257 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:03 pm to
Yes, we were (and still are) right. Fighting Iran for Israel was/is a stupid idea.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:04 pm to
MANY BASES SMASHED!!!!!

MUNITIONS RUN LOW!!!!!

clown
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17533 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:04 pm to
A significant part of the problem is President Trump’s schizophrenic approach. He goes back and forth between conciliation and confrontation often times within hours and alternatingly praising Iranian leaders as “very rational people” and denouncing them as “scum”.

At least seven times since the start of the war, Trump has vowed to launch devastating attacks before announcing that he was instead giving talks another chance. Jus last week on Aug. 1, he wrote on social media that “the U.S.A. is locked and loaded and ready to go against the Islamic Republic of Iran, at levels of Military Terror, Strength, and Power not seen since World War II,” but that he would “hold off any attack” because “the perimeters of a deal has been agreed to.”

No deal has been signed.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92276 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Most likely


At this point some new and very positive developments would have to unravel for it to be a win.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7078 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:06 pm to
Like I said.. ignorance.

quote:

Really? Where is that written?


All over this board.

From Trump:

“As a candidate for president, I loudly pledged a new approach. Great nations do not fight endless wars.”

January 6, 2024 rally (before the Iowa caucuses):
Returning him to the White House would allow the country to “turn the page forever on those foolish, stupid days of never-ending wars. They never ended.”

2024 Pennsylvania rally:
“I will not send you to fight and die in stupid foreign wars that never end.”


Oct 5th 2024, Rally:
"I will not send you to fight and die in a foolish, never-ending foreign war.”

Just because you are not paying attention doesn't mean everybody else was not paying attention.

Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16924 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:06 pm to
When the debate is lost, insults become the loser’s tool - Socrates.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16844 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:08 pm to
Maga was supposed to change the narrative from the Neocons that wanted military intervention across the globe as a means of support for the Military Industrial complex which was so prevalent in the Bush administration as well as others like Nikki Haley and McCain and democrats like Hillary. Many republicans bought into it. Trumps been hoodwinked though.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16924 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:09 pm to
Is this war over? Will it be over when we pull stakes and pay tolls to clear the Straits? What about when we pay their reparations? When will the war end?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159095 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:09 pm to
I wouldn’t call going straight to insults a debate.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

When the debate is lost,





you're confusing your stupid editorial with a debate
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 2:11 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7078 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

I hope so but I’m not convinced they have the power to takeover the savages that lead them with an iron fist.


I think we all have that hope. Not sure of the outcome, but this is how I see it.

- Time is on our side. We don't even have to launch attacks that often. Just enough to add pain. We can literally blockade as long as needed. Nobody can move us.

- The blockade daily brings harsher conditions to the people AND those in the guard. Through the occasional attack that makes them wonder if it's worth it.

- Offer a solution to the people... see if they take it.



In the meantime, the market will stabilize because there are options for the rest of the ME and their oil/NG.



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Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16844 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:10 pm to
It was supposed to be 2 weeks…

And it was supposed to be unnecessary after the June 2025 bombing that was supposed to have obliterated their nuclear capability

Answer this- do neocons favor what’s happening or not?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7078 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:12 pm to
Except for that's not close to what we are doing......
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2648 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

wouldn’t call going straight to insults a debate.


I wouldn't call pontificating with a faux question attached to it a debate

"We are now months into this and Iran holds all of the cards." A serious person who wants a debate doesn't start with this stupid of a position.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 2:17 pm
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