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re: Were the “Panicans” right after all on Iran?
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:14 pm to BCreed1
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:14 pm to BCreed1
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Just because you are not paying attention doesn't mean everybody else was not paying attention.
The irony.
Are you seriously going to claim that these quotes negate claims that, at other times, he explicitly said something different.
Just one example:
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Election-night victory speech, November 2024: “Four years, we had no wars, except we defeated ISIS… They said, ‘He will start a war.’ I’m not going to start a war, I’m going to stop wars.”
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Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:14 pm to MemphisGuy
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Because, well, that ain't happening.
Like I said. Starvation effects everybody.... not just the people. The soldier in the guard... the officer in the guard. And we have all the time.
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Until that changes, without us putting boots on the ground, we won't be able to make much headway in regime change, right?
I disagree.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:15 pm to BCreed1
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We are against NEVER ENDING WARS where we have boots on the ground.
So you were one of the wise ones who were against military agression towards Iran.
Give yourself a gold star
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:16 pm to SlidellCajun
Exactly, Israel and the MIC convinced Trump that this would be easy. They played to his ego and he fell for it. Every president since HW Bush knew better but Trump’s ego got to him. You can tell that they have literally been making it up as they go since the first week. When the Iranian people didn’t rise up, Trump was screwed.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:17 pm to Ag Zwin
Patriot, promises will need to be broken in order to usher in the storm. Sit tight.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:18 pm to BCreed1
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Like I said. Starvation effects everybody.... not just the people. The soldier in the guard... the officer in the guard. And we have all the time
How exactly are they going to starve?
Its as if they do not export food. Its as if there aren't numerous land trade routes into Iran.
Its as if you have no idea.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:18 pm to SlidellCajun
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Maga was supposed to change the narrative from the Neocons that wanted military intervention across the globe
No, we were get in and get out. We are,, no never ending wars. We are Strong military and not be fraid to use it.... just go get it done and over with.
I have always laughed at people who try and tell others what they want.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:18 pm to BCreed1
Not you specifically but you can discuss things without getting offended or personal IMo.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:20 pm to BCreed1
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I have always laughed at people who try and tell others what they want
And I always laugh when someone uses themselves anecdotally in order to speak for everyone else in a movement.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:20 pm to UtahCajun
China and Russia will keep the people fed that need to be fed. The humanitarian crisis that floods Europe with more Muslims is just an added benefit for the globalists, communists and jihadis of the world.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:20 pm to DeltaDoc
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Is this war over?
This is not a war. We don't have boots on the ground. What we have is a crippling blockade backed by total air control.
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Will it be over when we pull stakes and pay tolls to clear the Straits? What about when we pay their reparations?
LOL.. What?
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When will the war end?
Again... There are no boots on the ground. We don;t need them./ Time is on our side.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:24 pm to BCreed1
So, by your definition (moving goal posts) shooting billions of munitions into a single country, while said country attacks our bases and our allies bases annd infrastructure over months and months in response is not war?
Hahahaha.
Hahahaha.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:26 pm to DeltaDoc
here is the deal from my POV.....Im was against anything but if you were going to do it...destroy ability to make nukes and destroy as much of their military as possible, walk away and put crippling sanctions on them
but all this shite could be avoided by just ending all immigration and no student visas or visas of any kind to muslims or from muslim countries....
i dont give a frick about their suffering or what the sand people do over there. just dont let them come here, especially to get educated and you dont have to worry much about it.
but all this shite could be avoided by just ending all immigration and no student visas or visas of any kind to muslims or from muslim countries....
i dont give a frick about their suffering or what the sand people do over there. just dont let them come here, especially to get educated and you dont have to worry much about it.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:27 pm to BCreed1
Trump even calls it a war.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:28 pm to LARancher1991
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However do I think we underestimated their capabilities, what it would take for them to surrender, and how far we would need to go to get them to surrender?
given the history of the region....how is it even possible to underestimate this?
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:29 pm to SlidellCajun
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It was supposed to be 2 weeks…
And it was supposed to be unnecessary after the June 2025 bombing that was supposed to have obliterated their nuclear capability
It was never just about just their nuke capability. It's about a solution to a problem of them recreating their program because the same fanatics control the nation.
This is Trump throughout the years:
2011 (social media / public comments):
“Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped – by any and all means necessary.”
He has repeatedly stated he will use everything and do what ever he has to do to stop that.
As all of you have pointed out, they will still seek nukes because they are still in power. Right?
So it seems to me that this falls right into the current operations. We have not sent boots in. We bomb on the occasion. We have a blockade.
All of that appears too be to force a change by creating the right environment.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:30 pm to MemphisGuy
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Make what stop?
Maybe consolidate all the Panican/anti Trump threads.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:31 pm to BCreed1
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As a candidate for president, I loudly pledged a new approach. Great nations do not fight endless wars.”
Heh
Trump got us into a war, in the Middle East. Whether or not it’s “forever” is immaterial. Try telling our dead soldiers it’s only temporary.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:32 pm to Ag Zwin
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Are you seriously going to claim that these quotes negate claims that, at other times, he explicitly said something different.
Just one example:
You need to learn to put things in context.
That's like claiming God wants you to kill everybody on the planet because you take a scripture out of context.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 2:34 pm to roadGator
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Trump even calls it a war.
I don't care what Trump calls it. When it becomes a never ending war... let me know.
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