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re: Were the founders full of shite?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:09 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:09 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Have you ever changed your mind based on responses you have received in threads such as this?
No. This is 4C drive-by thread.
Which is why...
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the personal attacks on you,(4C)
She still hasn't addressed ANY of the historically accurate rebuttals or answers to her "full of shite" question.
And she won't.
She never does.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:10 pm to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
Other than an over emotional mentally ill trainwreck of a human to laugh and ridicule constantly what value do you honestly believe you provide to anyone?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Boredom, mostly.
Why do people respond to her threads?
She's certainly NOT coming from a place of sincerity, so why should we?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:11 pm to Beauw
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I am eating my lunch and stumbled on her latest rant, I should know better but here we are.
I know, I fall into the trap at times too.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:11 pm to NineLineBind
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You’re using a logical fallacy called presentism, which is viewing the past in light of the present. We all have hindsight the founders couldn’t possibly have had.
Not necessarily. Other posters have pointed out the moral variation in attitudes toward slavery at the time.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:12 pm to Sofaking2
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Let’s make a quick comparison. Marxism and socialism were thought(by its implementers) to be a good political system when it first began. In one century(20th) it caused the deaths of hundreds of millions of its own citizens. That shows you how hard it is to develop a good system of government. It’s not easy.
Fair point.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:13 pm to SallysHuman
quote:In fairness, she consistently engages in her threads. You can certainly disagree with her opinions, but "drive-by" is not her m.o.
This is 4C drive-by thread.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:15 pm to Sofaking2
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It’s a miserable existence to be so unhappy.
Theyve bought into the "White Savior" complex. They think without them raising awareness and "speaking for the underserved" that people would die on the street.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:15 pm to 4cubbies
Shut up bitch. If you were half as smart as you think you are this question wouldn’t have popped into your head.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:15 pm to SallysHuman
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No. This is 4C drive-by thread.
Could be. Whatever the reason, I'm impressed with the factual responses generated to rebut her.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:15 pm to 4cubbies
This is a ridiculous thread even for you.
The civil rights movement, the abolitionists, and the suffragettes all explicitly invoked the founding documents. You know who said the Founders were FOS? John Calhoun and Alexander Stephens.
The civil rights movement, the abolitionists, and the suffragettes all explicitly invoked the founding documents. You know who said the Founders were FOS? John Calhoun and Alexander Stephens.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:20 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:IMO, that's one of the reasons she starts and engages in these threads
Whatever the reason, I'm impressed with the factual responses generated to rebut her.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:22 pm to 4cubbies
"All men are created equal'' and ''Justice for all'' were more evolution than revolution.
Every government and society since has promised those things, but they have each discriminated against someone. It is if we have to tear someone down to build someone up.
Every government and society since has promised those things, but they have each discriminated against someone. It is if we have to tear someone down to build someone up.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:24 pm to 4cubbies
They understood human nature- they believed in specific ideals and hoped we would eventually attain them, but they never expressed that men were angels. If you were familiar with political philosophy, you’d understand that .
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:24 pm to 4cubbies
You need to need more reading. Slavery was Americas original sin. They didn't want slavery but the only they could get the Southerm States to join to the Union was to allow slavery. And they needed the States in the South.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:25 pm to 4cubbies
No what you wanted was to try and be a arse by suggesting that we as a nation was very much wrong from the beginning. You may want to judge the entirety of history and look at the snippet of existence of the American experiment and determine if somehow those guys in the fatigued stature of the times were able to put together a fantastic body of work. Otherwise just continue with being a mess of a person you currently personify
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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In fairness, she consistently engages in her threads.
Without really addressing much of what gets brought to her attention.
Has she addressed the omitted text in the DOI?
Or that slavery predated our founding?
Or that unity was necessary to declare independence, lest we still be colonies?
Or that the language of equality and justice could very well have been a framework for future aspirations to fulfill such a mandate?
Or that many of the founders abhorred slavery?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:27 pm to 4cubbies
Slavery was part of the fabric of humanity since humanity started. Then comes the US and in less than 100 years, it was abolished around the world save for the shite hole countries.
You say you're looking at it through the eyes of the founders, and then you conclude the founders must have been a bunch of lying idiots. I'm sure you can't see the irony here, but it's hilarious.
You say you're looking at it through the eyes of the founders, and then you conclude the founders must have been a bunch of lying idiots. I'm sure you can't see the irony here, but it's hilarious.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:30 pm to 4cubbies
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Justice has never existed as an inherent right in this country, despite what our founders claimed. Justice has always been a privilege extended to those deemed worthy by prevailing social hierarchies of race, gender, and class.
Your continuous drivel about how unjust the system is to race and gender is so friken tiring when your worldview is proven wrong time after time after time.
Continuous mugshots of criminals that murder and hurt people while being on the street with 10, 15, 20 or more arrests repeatedly shoots down your idiotic ranting.
You would be better to go to the hood and start washing feet and apologizing than to try to pass off your programming here.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:31 pm to NC_Tigah
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"Belief" is not inherent in the Constitution. An attempt at a new form of government is
Are you suggesting the founders didn't believe what they wrote?
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But that gets at your contention "Justice has never existed as an inherent right in this country."
People aren't fair. People are self-interested. People have opinions. That's why justice isn't applied unequally.
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'You are of course using the term "justice" as a floating signifier.
It's a loaded word with lots of interpretations. I don't know that I could even define it, but I'm working on it. I would say its rooted in human dignity.
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I think they did the best they could under the circumstance.
You're probably right.
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