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re: Were the founders full of shite?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:42 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:42 pm to wackatimesthree
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You just deny that the population in question is actually a human being.
I’m arguing that no reasonable people would be able to convince themselves of this.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:42 pm to FreddieMac
quote:Thanks for clarifying.
your reading more emotion into what I said than was intended.
quote:100% ... and you obviously correctly cite Adams. But the first non-slaveholding POTUS not named Adams was elected > 6 decades after "our" declared independence.
Not all founders thought the same about this one subject...
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 4:56 pm to 4cubbies
quote:That is a very fair argument, as evidenced in the papers we've discussed
I’m arguing that no reasonable people would be able to convince themselves of this.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 5:30 pm to 4cubbies
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I’m arguing that no reasonable people would be able to convince themselves of this.
More than half the country does it today.
Are you saying more than half the country is unreasonable?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 5:42 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Would you say educated adult Americans typically accept prevailing narratives without thought or question?
No.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 6:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
100% ... and you obviously correctly cite Adams. But the first non-slaveholding POTUS not named Adams was elected > 6 decades after "our" declared independence.
That was more a function of democratic corrupt politics and the wealth in the south. The north did not emerge until thr industrial revolution.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:06 pm to 4cubbies
13 pages for everyone to basically say "No, but you are full of shite."
Not that complicated.
You really need to do some self-reflection.
Not that complicated.
You really need to do some self-reflection.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:42 am to Y.A. Tittle
That’s what you ridiculed me for not doing.
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