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re: Were the founders full of shite?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:32 pm to Madking
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:32 pm to Madking
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Why are you so dishonest?
Well, she is getting over seven pages of attention for her sociopathy while bashing a group of men that she could never ever dream of living up to.
You have to hand it to her, she knows how to get negative attention the dangle you all along for hours. I'm actually impressed at this point.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:33 pm to Sofaking2
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We are sitting here arguing back and forth over everything. How hard is it to get 2 people to agree on anything? Forming a republic like the US is extremely hard. It’s a monumental task. The founders deserve credit.
They get nothing but credit! The founders are very rarely, if ever criticized (here at least).
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:34 pm to SallysHuman
quote:Well, there are 60+ responses to the OP. I'm not sure she is aware of Jefferson's omitted text, or the post(s) here, addressing it.
Has she addressed the omitted text in the DOI?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:35 pm to Sofaking2
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I have a sister like her who I love very much. She is always miserable and nothing is right. She lacks gratitude. I pray for her all the time. I feel bad for cubbies. It’s a miserable existence to be so unhappy.
My cross to bear.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:35 pm to 4cubbies
This is both childish, self righteous, and nitpicking great men for that which we are all inconsistent in in our lives because it is human nature, and as such not always acceptable.
If what is required to aspire to something greater is consistency, flawless perfection, or the embodiment of it before speaking of it or aspiring to that which is greater then everyone on planet earth should just remain as they are, aspire to nothing but the status quo, and never encourage anyone but to achieve the bare minimum. Preachers should stay home, teachers stop teaching, parents stop parenting, and everyone just accept things as they are, nothing more.
This is the same childishness that fuels people not standing for our national anthem because we have not achieved it instead of seeing it as a goal we are all aiming for.
If what is required to aspire to something greater is consistency, flawless perfection, or the embodiment of it before speaking of it or aspiring to that which is greater then everyone on planet earth should just remain as they are, aspire to nothing but the status quo, and never encourage anyone but to achieve the bare minimum. Preachers should stay home, teachers stop teaching, parents stop parenting, and everyone just accept things as they are, nothing more.
This is the same childishness that fuels people not standing for our national anthem because we have not achieved it instead of seeing it as a goal we are all aiming for.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:35 pm to 4cubbies
What are you hoping to get from this discussion? What is the ideal solution we could arrive at if everyone agreed with your assertion posted here?
If we all agree and concede that the founders were hypocrites on the slavery issue, then were do we go from there? Are you implying that everything else they ever did was wrong also or is it just limited to saying they were wrong on the slavery issue? And if the point is to just make fun of the founders for being hypocrites about slavery, we should at least point out that slavery was generally accepted all over the planet throughout human history until relatively recently so every other group of people/country that allowed/participated in slavery should be judged the same way our founders are.
If we all agree and concede that the founders were hypocrites on the slavery issue, then were do we go from there? Are you implying that everything else they ever did was wrong also or is it just limited to saying they were wrong on the slavery issue? And if the point is to just make fun of the founders for being hypocrites about slavery, we should at least point out that slavery was generally accepted all over the planet throughout human history until relatively recently so every other group of people/country that allowed/participated in slavery should be judged the same way our founders are.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:36 pm to NC_Tigah
Not only that, but "what about..." is not my favorite way to approach discussions.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:36 pm to 4cubbies
quote:It's well deserved by the way. Presentism it's not a great way to consider history.
They get nothing but credit!
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:38 pm to BuckeyeGoon
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If we all agree and concede that the founders were hypocrites on the slavery issue, then were do we go from there?
Reparations of course. She wants to give billions upon billions in reparations.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:39 pm to NC_Tigah
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Well, there are 60+ responses to the OP. I'm not sure she is aware of Jefferson's omitted text, or the post(s) here, addressing it.
It has been brought up at least four or five times... instead she's had responses about abortion, the "state of justice in this country", women voting, alleging the founders were either heartless or idiots, etc...
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:40 pm to SludgeFactory
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Well, she is getting over seven pages of attention
Yes, I come here so strange men I will never be in the same room with can call me fat, ugly and stupid.Like most humans, I love being insulted by strangers. My goodness, do you come here to get attention from men? Is that the actual motivation for posting here for most people? Why else would you accuse me of that?
quote:You are so fixated that it's uncomfortable. Just ignore me.
You have to hand it to her, she knows how to get negative attention the dangle you all along for hours. I'm actually impressed at this point.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:40 pm to Mike da Tigah
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This is both childish, self righteous, and nitpicking great men for that which we are all inconsistent in in our lives because it is human nature, and as such not always acceptable
The goal of the left, and marxists in general, is to degrade and eventually erase the accomplishments of strong men, specifically the founders of the nations they seek to destroy.
Language like this should not be a shock to anyone that pays attention. The removal of the college mascot thread above is a great example of this. While small, it still fits the overall objective.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:43 pm to 4cubbies
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Not only that, but "what about..." is not my favorite way to approach discussions.
The omitted text in the DOI is directly relevant to your original post- you choose to ignore it as you don't really wish to explore or discuss the issue beyond your inane proclamation that the founders were full of shite.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:43 pm to 4cubbies
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The revolutionary claim that “all men are created equal” coexisted with the enslavement of millions, the Constitution’s call to “establish justice” was constrained by legal structures that codified inequality, and the Pledge’s promise of “justice for all” has never applied to those systematically excluded from full citizenship. Even celebrating "Independence Day" while slavery was a legal practice in this country is such a mindfrick.
Brilliant, original analysis.
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Did the founders believe their own bullshite
They at least knew better than to let hysterical women into the room.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:43 pm to 4cubbies
Quit letting this SFP alter stir you up
Havent read the thread, but he should be along shortly to confirm how insightful this 'female version' of himself is
Havent read the thread, but he should be along shortly to confirm how insightful this 'female version' of himself is
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:44 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If it truly were a question, I think the answer is a resounding "NO!"
Maybe it's not a simple yes or no question.
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Have you ever changed your mind based on responses you have received in threads such as this?
My thinking has certainly been shaped by points others have made here. I'm procrastinating writing a paper about justice right now and I know that the paper will look differently after considering some of the points that were made in this thread.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:45 pm to 4cubbies
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They get nothing but credit!
Again, you dont understand "Democracy."
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:47 pm to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
You come across as the most unhappy,miserable person on this forum. The only things that appear to give you joy are abortions and when police are murdered.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:47 pm to 4cubbies
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You are so fixated that it's uncomfortable
You're like an SNL character of someone playing an overly self important dingbat.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:48 pm to DByrd2
quote:It's obvious that her mom was chugging Tylenol while pregnant.
Did you have restricted airflow in the birth canal?
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