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re: Well Well.... Looks like the Obama Admin scrubbed security clearances 2013
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:11 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:11 pm to boosiebadazz
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Did he misuse any classified info? Did he disseminate it unlawfully? That should be grounds for losing your clearance, not because you think the guy in charge is an idiot.
Yes he did. Not only that, his position and clearance gives the impression he knows things the general public does not. Therefore when he makes comments that Trump committed treason he is looked at as "I know things you don't"
As pointed out to you, others, including Clapper, has called him out as now being a problem. It's why he walked back the treason comments.
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:11 pm to boosiebadazz
If I recall correctly, In 2016 they took security clearance away and demoted a pentagon employee who reported wrongdoing. So the answer is yes.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:14 pm to boosiebadazz
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I'm going to disagree with you here. You're punishing political speech because of the content of that speech. I'm going to always err on the side of allowing speech without repercussion from the govnerment. It's up to the free marketplace of ideas to elevate or ignore that speech.
No. That's 100% wrong. Because of who he is and his position with clearance gives the general public the idea he is speaking with classified information in mind.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:19 pm to Jjdoc
So the higher position you hold the less leeway you have to comment after leaving office because JJdoc and his ilk are too misinformed to correctly weigh your opinion?
That’s your argument?
That’s your argument?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:19 pm to boosiebadazz
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Lockheed is a private entity, not the government. That's an important distinction
That was kinda my point.
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At this point, why have the Hatch Act or any civil service rules at all?
This is interesting and I'd like to hear a reasoned answer.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:22 pm to boosiebadazz
Brennan is still free to tweet whatever he wishes.
His 1A rights are still fully in tact.
Only thing that has changed is he no longer has access to material he no longer needs access to.
I know you want champion Brennan’s constitutional rights, but the ACLU doesn’t even want to get involved with this one.
His 1A rights are still fully in tact.
Only thing that has changed is he no longer has access to material he no longer needs access to.
I know you want champion Brennan’s constitutional rights, but the ACLU doesn’t even want to get involved with this one.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:22 pm to BayouBlitz
Nope, sure don't. But if you're knowledgeable about the subject, then please feel free to enlighten me on why someone who is no longer a government official/employee keeping a top secret security clearance despite their current status as a private citizen and frequent interviewee on cable news shows?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:25 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:A security clearance is a privilege NOT a right. He should have never had clearance to begin with.
think you should keep your clearance until you do something to lose it.
He not only voted for a communist for President of the United States, but did so while Soviet Russia was our greatest threat.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:49 pm to boosiebadazz
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So the higher position you hold the less leeway you have to comment after leaving office because JJdoc and his ilk are too misinformed to correctly weigh your opinion?
No, when you use that position and call the President a traitor and also call for military leaders to take him out, you have crossed lines as pointed out to you. Clapper has called him out, and Brennan has walked back his words.
That in and of itself is enough to remove it.
The fact that he is leaking is another.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:54 pm to boosiebadazz
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So the higher position you hold the less leeway you have to comment after leaving office because JJdoc and his ilk are too misinformed to correctly weigh your opinion?
That’s your argument?
You can't really think it's appropriate for current and or former government officials to intimate that they have seen classified materials that prove another government employee or elected official violated the law?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:59 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
I need to see the clip but assuming what you said is true, yeah, that’s out of bounds
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:21 pm to boosiebadazz
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Did they do it for expressing an opinion regarding politics?
I am not a "yank them all" guy. I see the reason for keeping some people qulified to review stuff WHEN THEY ARE ASKED TO.
That being said, if anyone is using information they gather via their clearance as the basis for their political expression, then it should absolutely be voided.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:23 pm to boosiebadazz
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Did they do it for expressing an opinion regarding politics?
Surely you know there's more to it than that, right?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:24 pm to boosiebadazz
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Did they do it for expressing an opinion regarding politics?
They used the IRS to attack private citizens based on politics. Is that OK?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:44 pm to asurob1
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Shhh...Donnie gets to punish enemies...it's okay now.
Punish? is having the clearance for the benefit of the country or the one that has the clearance?
If for the country then there is punishment. And if for the benefit of the one holding the clearance, well that is another problem altogether.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:45 pm to novabill
“John Brennan shouldn’t be within a mile of any classified information” —- Sen Rand Paul.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:11 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
When Rachel Maddow sees it and Boosie doesn't there is a problem...
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Former CIA Director John Brennan said that he didn’t mean President Trump had committed treason when he called Trump’s press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin “nothing short of treason."
Brennan clarified the comment during an interview Friday, after MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow said Brennan said the press conference “rose to treason.”
The former CIA director disputed the characterization of his "treason" tweet, saying that he felt compelled to make the comment after Trump sided with Putin’s denials of Russia's election interference.
“And for Mr. Trump to so cavalierly so dismiss that, yes, sometimes my Irish comes out and in my tweets,” Brennan said. “And I did say that it rises to and exceeds the level of high crimes and misdemeanors and nothing short of treasonous, because he had the opportunity there to be able to say to the world that this is something that happened.”
“And that’s why I said it was nothing short of treasonous. I didn’t mean that he committed treason. But it was a term that I used, nothing short of treasonous,” he said.
Maddow then pressed Brennan on his use of the term, noting that saying “nothing short of treasonous means it’s treason.”
She then asked Brennan if he believes that Trump is “serving a foreign country rather than our own.”
“Well, yes,” he replied. “I think he has crossed the line repeatedly in terms of his failure to fulfill the responsibility of the office. And to look Putin square in the eye and say, this should never, ever happen again.”
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:13 pm to Rebel
Yeah, as I posted Rand is the one that cued Trump that Brennan was speaking way out of line.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:24 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:52 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:no, all these guys just got media gigs where they are paid to leak classified material
Did they do it for expressing an opinion regarding politics?
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