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re: Welfare Facts - Putting things in perspective - Sorry if it pisses you off...
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:00 pm to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:00 pm to Jax-Tiger
Hunger is an amazing motivator. Just like a band aid, 90% of all welfare should just be ripped off and discontinued and you will be amazed at how many hungry people will have to figure out how to make money and take care of themselves.
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:00 pm to Jake88
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The average poor family with children already receives $65,200 in cash, food, housing, medical care, and educational support from the taxpayer each year
Subtract this from your salary and divide by hourly and that's what you REALLY make per year.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:04 pm to Tantal
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We throw the doors wide open to uneducated, unskilled 3rd World shitbirds who are net drains on the system the minute that they arrive.
That's not what I heard on MSNBC...
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:05 pm to Jax-Tiger
Welfare is just a bribe to keep the barbarians from storming the gate.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:07 pm to Jax-Tiger
First OP... great post.
But you start with a false premise ---
The legislative and executive branches of government would love to spend more. In three years it would be worst it is now.
But you start with a false premise ---
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TLDR: We could balance our budget if we transition half of our welfare recipients to working a job. Even if we cut our welfare recipients in half, we would still have 5 times as many people on welfare as Canada does, per capita.
The legislative and executive branches of government would love to spend more. In three years it would be worst it is now.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:12 pm to The Maj
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It is past time to cut strap hangers loose and let them perish or survive on their own...
I understand people might need some help but it should be for short periods of time. Maybe 3 years over their lifetime, with maybe 6 months at a time.
It should be a helping hand not a way of life. There are people living around my farm in very rural Alabama (140 people living within a 10 mile area) who HAVE NEVER HAD A JOB. Im talking about 70 year old people who have only ever received a government check. Thats unbelievable.
I also think that instead of food stamps being for 80% of stuff in the grocery store it should not allow for prepared (boxed foods). It should only be for meats, vegetables and dairy. Nobody should be able to buy crab legs with food stamps.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:15 pm to captainFid
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But you start with a false premise ---
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TLDR: We could balance our budget if we transition half of our welfare recipients to working a job. Even if we cut our welfare recipients in half, we would still have 5 times as many people on welfare as Canada does, per capita.
The legislative and executive branches of government would love to spend more. In three years it would be worst it is now.
Key world being "could". I never said this would balance the budget.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:16 pm to alphaandomega
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I also think that instead of food stamps being for 80% of stuff in the grocery store it should not allow for prepared (boxed foods). It should only be for meats, vegetables and dairy. Nobody should be able to buy crab legs with food stamps.
Food Stamps are welfare for the Ag and food industries first, and nutrition for humans second, and abused by both parties.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
Vote buying at its best LBJ
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:19 pm to Jax-Tiger
How about a 5 year cap on all unearned entitlements.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:23 pm to Jax-Tiger
Does this count all the people getting disability for each child with depression, ADHD, etc?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:24 pm to Jax-Tiger
Move to Canada.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:29 pm to choupiquesushi
Imagine how much less tax payers would have to pay if our federal government stopped spending trillions of dollars on other "welfare" items like aid to the states, compensation to unnecessary federal employees, government contracts to private parties, and subsidies to private parties.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:32 pm to LSUAngelHere1
I have a cousin who is on disability for being fat. no shite he gets 1200 a month for being fat and is 54 and couldn't be happier. Welfare is a mindset, until you focus on the mindset of people they will always take the welfare.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:33 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Does this count all the people getting disability for each child with depression, ADHD, etc?
Probably.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:34 pm to Tantal
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The difference between us and Canada is that they have very strict immigration laws and will only accept migration from people with education and skills to help their economy and contribute to government coffers. We throw the doors wide open to uneducated, unskilled 3rd World shitbirds who are net drains on the system the minute that they arrive.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:36 pm to TrueTiger
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And none of them should be allowed to vote.
I'm all for getting people off the government, but I am not sure this is the path.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:48 pm to Jax-Tiger
Where are you getting these numbers?
Here is the 2023 Federal Budget
LINK
Page 14 - Congress just slashed total federal entitlements (Income Security Programs) from $576m in 2022 to $416m in 2023.
Food assistance is $127b and unemployment is $27b
for 65m people on welfare that's actually (minus the government and state administrative expenses) less than $150/month
And $48b of this is for foster care. You want to ban abortion (because life is a gift from god) but when kids are born you want to complain about paying a meager sum to take care of them? How is that not predictable.
Edit - WAIT you are including Health Care in this? I know lots of people enrolled in the AMA because their employer does not provide health care - or they have a preexisting condition or are disabled and cannot get regular insurance. I wouldn't group that as welfare.
Here is the 2023 Federal Budget
LINK
Page 14 - Congress just slashed total federal entitlements (Income Security Programs) from $576m in 2022 to $416m in 2023.
Food assistance is $127b and unemployment is $27b
for 65m people on welfare that's actually (minus the government and state administrative expenses) less than $150/month
And $48b of this is for foster care. You want to ban abortion (because life is a gift from god) but when kids are born you want to complain about paying a meager sum to take care of them? How is that not predictable.
Edit - WAIT you are including Health Care in this? I know lots of people enrolled in the AMA because their employer does not provide health care - or they have a preexisting condition or are disabled and cannot get regular insurance. I wouldn't group that as welfare.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:51 pm to TrueTiger
Well GOP would loose a huge block of rural white voters if welfare recipients weren’t allowed to vote, so go for it
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:51 pm to Jax-Tiger
We have people living in 6 and 7 generations of welfare.
They don’t have a job, their parents didn’t work, their grandparents didn’t work, their kids won’t work, and their grandkids won’t work.
Ridiculous. .
They don’t have a job, their parents didn’t work, their grandparents didn’t work, their kids won’t work, and their grandkids won’t work.
Ridiculous. .
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