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re: We see the results of our revolving door of “justice” every day. Meanwhile…
Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I mostly see people not buying into your bullshite, but please educate me because the information I've read and how I feel are aligned. I feel attacked as a citizen. I do not feel safe walking downtown in cities. I have experienced crime's impact on my family. So, by all means, bring my emotional self into a factual understanding so this burden can be lifted from my shoulders.
I've been educating people on this on this website for at least 15 years brother. I know all the angles and dishonesty that manipulates the emotional types who parrot the talking points
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:01 pm to Roaad
They have no personal policy preferences or any individualized concept of politics. They just have a team and support that team no matter how irrationally it is or how hypocritical it makes them
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:03 pm to RoyalWe
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me because the information I've read and how I feel are aligned.
Why do you think that is?
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I feel attacked as a citizen. I do not feel safe walking downtown in cities
I can't control your feelings, no matter how rational or rational they may be. The question is how you felt when America was objectively less safe? Did you feel exponentially more fear and say 1990? Because it was exponentially more dangerous in 1990 than it is today.
So if you did feel more safe than, you really need to examine the question posed above. Why do you think your feelings align with the editorialized information you consume?
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Jesus fricking Christ I caught cancer and became gay after reading this.
Don't create a pivot-digression by applying these other hypothetical policies for your motte and bailey fallacy.
What’s that little book of yours called? I need to read this thing.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Made in 2020
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:10 pm to Roaad
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Think of how crime free the country would be if we put every single man, woman, and child in a prison cell under constant supervision and rigid structure?
What an incredible Utopia that would be!
Wild hyperbole doesn’t help an argument.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm leaving for the rodeo, but I am not a shallow thinker. I do not have the time to list all of the possible reasons for this. As I aged I am certain my viewpoint changed. Going from invisible and bulletproof to older and mortal changes your viewpoint. The impact of violence on my family probably had an impact. My reading of the bible has influenced me. There are many reasons, but regardless I am the summation of my experiences and that is who I am today.
Why do you think that is?
You're implying that I'm willfully ignoring factual information. I'm willfully critical of what is presented as factual information -- and that's never a bad position to take. In fact, it's the swallowing of it that will get you into trouble or make you a useful idiot.
Yes, I'm aware of how emotions and feelings work. Wouldn't it be a shame if the data is editorialized?
The rodeo calls.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:11 pm to ReauxlTide222
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What’s that little book of yours called? I need to read this thing
I suggest starting with You Are Not So Smart by David McRaney
LINK
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:12 pm to High C
quote:It does.
Wild hyperbole doesn’t help an argument.
taking a persons position to the extreme helps illuminate the key concern to the masses
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
this thread is all about sfp working hard to get to his 500,000 post milestone. Just give him the Tucker treatment and ignore him.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Thank you
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The same people who reject this believing that it would never happen to them are the same people who raged for years about January 6th and the Trump prosecutions. It's incredible cognitive dissonance
This would require the equating of J6 defendants and Trump with multiple repeat offenders who continue to commit the same crimes. I think you call that a false equivalency.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:30 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Bukele/Pinochet sounds good, until they call you a terrorist or the other side abuses that power
No argument but modern leftist “liberal” “democracies” do that already.
It’s too soon to tell but I think Bukele could turn out to be a benevolent dictator.
But like all throughout history, he’ll probably live long enough to become a villain.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:49 pm to RoyalWe
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I don't think it's necessary to talk about what's personally happened in my life to address this.
You said statistics aren’t important, feelings are. That’s the only reason I asked.
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However, my brother was targeted and murdered. The criminals got away.
I am very sorry for your loss.
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But here's the thing. I don't look for "an incident" to shape my thoughts about an issue. I look for patterns.
Patterns are statistics. The things you said don’t matter.
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And in your rush to defend criminals, you skip violence against law-abiding citizens to find patterns in favor of criminals. You are on the wrong side.
How did I defend criminals? What defense did I offer?
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:09 pm to High C
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This would require the equating of J6 defendants and Trump with multiple repeat offenders
Equating what, exactly?
Their behavior? No
Their status and risk under the proposed system? Yes
We are discussing a proposed change to our system that attacks rights. This system will apply universally. There is no conflation or equivocation outside of that universal applicability. You're conceptualizing this wrong because you are, as you always do, turn this into an in/out dynamic. This biased lens destroys any logic in your stance.
The rights that I am defending and you're attacking protect everyone. Removing those rights puts everyone at risk, including you. These rights are meant as a safeguard to protect people like you and me (we just test their limits with "real" criminals). You don't have to have engaged in any criminal behavior to be convicted of a crime, and removing these rights and their safeguards increases the chances that you are jailed/convicted while committing no crime. It doesn't matter how many actual criminals commit crimes in that system. Your risk is elevated.
Now, if you could create this magical system that determines who is a real criminal from the outset, it would solve everything. That system would be powered by ground unicorn horns and terds of a chupacabra.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:32 pm to High C
The political left in this country doesn't understand what justice is, even through they append that word to every cause they support.
They are more focused on the rehabilitation of the criminal rather than supporting the victim.
We need more death penalty executions for violent crimes like rape and murder, and we need standards that prevent repeat criminals from being let loose to make more victims.
They are more focused on the rehabilitation of the criminal rather than supporting the victim.
We need more death penalty executions for violent crimes like rape and murder, and we need standards that prevent repeat criminals from being let loose to make more victims.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why are you against the rights of the people assaulted by these repeat offenders? Isn't safety a basic tenant of a civilized society?Repeat offenders are basically uncivilized and have chosen to surrendered their rights. Getting rid of 3 strikes laws was ignorant.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:33 pm to dalefla
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Why are you against the rights of the people assaulted by these repeat offenders?
He lacks the ability to empathize. Probably some family dynamics from his youth.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:39 pm to the808bass
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He lacks the ability to empathize.
Wrong completely
Nothing I've discussed negatively affects the rights (the ones that actually exist, at least) of victims or family of victims.
He asked about an inflammatory question so I just skipped it
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Nothing I've discussed negatively affects the rights (the ones that actually exist, at least) of victims or family of victims.
That has nothing to do with empathy. But it is what someone who has no empathy would respond with.
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