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re: We probably have not hit Iran with bunker busters yet b/c of the technical challenges.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:23 am to GumboPot
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:23 am to GumboPot
Can the surrounding surface area be bombed over and over and over again until the fifteenth super bunker buster bomb finally make its way down? And there are certain disadvantages to working underground when you need the air above to survive. We do have air supremacy.
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:23 am to alphaandomega
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A few AC130's with some A10's as backups could keep any Iranian ground forces away.
As bad arse as the A10 is the AC130 is far more lethal.
Do they have enough fuel to fly that far from our aircraft carriers? Also there are more technical challenges for air support at the New Natanz facility. It's protected by mountains:
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:26 am to GumboPot
You don’t strike directly above. You hit it from the sides where it isn’t fortified and watch it cave in on itself.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:26 am to GumboPot
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Do they have enough fuel to fly that far from our aircraft carriers?
Refueling tankers.
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Also there are more technical challenges for air support at the New Natanz facility. It's protected by mountains:
If we can't do this then we will not remain a superpower.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:27 am to GumboPot
If we want it gone.... it will be gone.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:27 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Can the surrounding surface area be bombed over and over and over again until the fifteenth super bunker buster bomb finally make its way down?
Possibly. But how do you know the 9th bunker buster reached your target? Is there a way of knowing? And if you did what are the nuclear fall out consequences for the surrounding area?
And if you did hit the facility with several bunker busters and they are back up and running in 6 months you know you were not successful.
I guess we can just keep bombing them at regularly scheduled times until they relent.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:28 am to Warboo
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Just drop Chris Christie on Nanatz. Problem solved.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:29 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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If we can't do this then we will not remain a superpower.
What kind of retard are you?
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Occupation:Retired
Ahh, a "God's chosen people" boomer retard
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:31 am to GumboPot
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Possibly. But how do you know the 9th bunker buster reached your target? Is there a way of knowing? And if you did what are the nuclear fall out consequences for the surrounding area?
You shut down the above the ground infrastructure. People can't live underground indefinitely.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:31 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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If we can't do this then we will not remain a superpower.
A nuke would take this place out. But I think we are trying at all cost to avoid using nukes. Too much fall out and will hurt surrounding countries.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:36 am to GumboPot
quote:yeah, talk about erosion of the moral high ground.
A nuke would take this place out. But I think we are trying at all cost to avoid using nukes. Too much fall out and will hurt surrounding countries.
"We had to nuke them because they can't be trusted to have nukes"
I agree on your posts. As it sits right now I see more technical issues with using US airpower/ordinance that using Israeli ground power.
That is subject to change.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:44 am to alphaandomega
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And how many months until the Iranians dig the openings out and get everything running again?
While I don't think it's simple, I imagine the facility would struggle to keep air clean and the people trapped inside fed and watered in the amount of time it takes to restore the entrance to accessible. Kind of a horrible way to think of it but if the food, water, power, and 02 is cut off for an extended period of time with workers trapped inside you 1 probably kill the remaining groups of people capable of this work and 2 discourage quite a number of people from being willing to go down the new hole.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:48 am to GumboPot
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A nuke would take this place out. But I think we are trying at all cost to avoid using nukes. Too much fall out and will hurt surrounding countries.
I don't think we should drop a nuke. But we have to have a weapons choice for this sort of situation. Because if we don't we can't stop Iran from enriching uranium and then developing a bomb. If we don't want that, we have to pull out almost all stops to get the job done.
Israel doesn't have s single long range bomber capable of heavy lift. With their threat profile, they need some. Unless they can take care of the Iran problem.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:52 am to GumboPot
Or because that would be the US attacking Iran and not just Israel doing it.
If you go that route you better be sure you want to.
If you go that route you better be sure you want to.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:52 am to shinerfan
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BREAKING CONSPIRACY THEORY: Trump/Musk contretemps was all misdirection to free up Musk to develop next generation bunker buster shaped like a Tesla. You heard it here first.
The Musk Boring Company is drilling a hole as we speak to the facilities. It’s a $50,000,000,000 contract. Unclear if they will use musk flame throwers or mossad beepers when they breach the walls. Stay tuned.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:57 am to GumboPot
So bunker busters are actually designed to work in pairs. . 1st one creates the crater the second one does the real damage. An ORSA (C5ISR) I know said he believes 2 sets could do the job if dropped just right. The problem especially at Fordow is the actual location and the mountains surrounding the complex. It's not enough to blow off the top of a mountain like we did in Afghanistan. They believe the guts of this thing is under the mountain on an angle at 300 meters. Right now the Air Force does not believe that there is a 60% or better chance of success on a first or second strike. Plus they believe there is another facility further east..
Plus, he's saying that Trump really does want to see if this thing can be diffused. He believes he has Khamenei by the balls but he has to basically show him he owns his balls.
Also there are rumblings that Trump is also telling Xi in China to cut out the "mystery" flights that have been coming in. Intel has no idea what's going on with that.
Plus, he's saying that Trump really does want to see if this thing can be diffused. He believes he has Khamenei by the balls but he has to basically show him he owns his balls.
Also there are rumblings that Trump is also telling Xi in China to cut out the "mystery" flights that have been coming in. Intel has no idea what's going on with that.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:03 am to Narax
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Its likely you need a tactical nuke.
I don't think we have an operation ground penetrating nuclear device unless W's nuclear bunker buster lived on in the black budget.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:11 am to GumboPot
quote:IF we get it under the cap/dome.
A nuke would take this place out.
quote:eh, if we get it under the cap/dome maybe not.
Too much fall out and will hurt surrounding countries.
quote:yes indeed.
But I think we are trying at all cost to avoid using nukes.
Moot points made by me.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:28 am to GumboPot
Can you just attack all exit/entry points and starve all folks inside?
It would at least delay the bomb for months.
It would at least delay the bomb for months.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 11:30 am to I20goon
My guess is none of this will be needed (nukes or bunker busters). Wait and when the radical muslims are forced out the Iranian leaders will evacuate the site and allow Israel or the US to come in and do it with boots on the ground.
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