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re: Wasn’t the ‘Greatest Generation’ running the country in the 1960’s?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:12 pm to EphesianArmor
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:12 pm to EphesianArmor
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My memory: The "worry" quotient" from the late 60s through the 70s was next to zero.
Did you get drafted?
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Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:26 pm to weagle1999
Good points!
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:29 pm to weagle1999
All civilizations fall. It is inevitable and if it wasn’t the Boomers if would eventually be another generation.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:31 pm to Zach
Nope. Missed in by a few years. Did have to register.
If your point is that those guys (were you one of them?) who were drafted under coercion and forced to fight and die for a bogus war in Nam had their peace of mind, "hope" and "zero worries" stolen from them, I would completely agree.
If your point is that those guys (were you one of them?) who were drafted under coercion and forced to fight and die for a bogus war in Nam had their peace of mind, "hope" and "zero worries" stolen from them, I would completely agree.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:38 pm to weagle1999
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Wasn’t the ‘Greatest Generation’ running the country in the 1960’s?
Don't blame the Greatest Generation.
Blame those who formed the Establishment Uniparty around the end of WWII. They were from multiple generations. Eisenhower kinda screwed the pooch at the end of the war, and subsequent Presidents such as LBJ laid the foundation for what we have become today- an Etatist Kleptocracy bolstered by unhealable division along lines of class, religion, wealth, race, sexual orientation and political affiliation.
Remember, it was the Greatest Generation that overwhelming gave Ronald Reagan the most lopsided Presidential victory in this nation's history. Reagan wasn't perfect by any means, but he was more conservative than any and every "Republican" President since then.
Both my maternal and paternal grandparents were in California and my grandmothers went to work when my grandfathers went to the European Theater. The whole of society was all about the betterment of America and their fellow countrymen back then. They hadn't forgotten it. With that generation all but dead and gone now, we're left with their children who were more idealistic and less grounded in reality.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:38 pm to Aeolian Vocalion
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After living through and enduring very hard times in the Depression, and then the human loss and chaos of a world war, which ate up the majority of their youthful lives, they (quite naturally) wanted some peace and quiet. So they settled in the consumerist comfort of the Fifties and vegetated a bit, putting everything on auto-pilot and handing the reins over to the elites, the experts, the academics. The Dr. Spocks, the Walter Cronkites, the 'Camelot' boys. Bad, bad move.
Great observations and take. They considered all that stuff their "reward" for their loyalty and sacrifice for WW2.
That generation's middle class never asked questions about the sincerity and honesty of gummint and the system that claimed to "help" and make things better.
Last note: Power and Control is not a "generational" thing ("Boomers" take a lot of misdirected blame for the current abysmal situation); It's the very same privileged cartel of people in charge of the system since the beginning.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:44 pm to Trevaylin
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1960"s
invention of color tv
clear channel radio.
Process control from manual/pneumatic to analogue
space race
slide rule to handheld calculator
Commercial development of chemistry
school integration
outboard motor size to 100hp
performance muscle cars
elimination of party line telephones
John Wayne
credit cards
Hurricane tracking
Woodstock
Fold lock top sandwich bags
perhaps we can add
8 track tape players
icee
skateboards
beatle wigs
edit/beatle wigs
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:44 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Blame those who formed the Establishment Uniparty around the end of WWII.
Yup, absolutely the case.
They begin accelerating the One World Gubmint agenda right about then. The UN was the Trojan Horse.
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Eisenhower kinda screwed the pooch at the end of the war, and subsequent Presidents such as LBJ laid the foundation for what we have become today- an Etatist Kleptocracy
Too bad they all had to sell us out. At least Ike felt guilty about it as he warned us about the "MIC". That said, it's always been their "Brotherhood" loyalty vs the "uninitiated".
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:44 pm to weagle1999
The "greatest generation" were those who fought in WW2, not their useless kids.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:02 pm to weagle1999
Barry Goldwater and Lyndon Johnson both were members of the Greatest Generation. Yet contrast how both are popularly portrayed in the mainstream media.
The reigning media establishment of the day castigated the Civil Rights champion Barry Goldwater as a racist bigot while lionizing the racist Lyndon B. Johnson as a visionary and transformative President. Why is that?
During the debate over the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Senator Barry Goldwater warned that once private businesses were dictated by legislative fiat into a “public accommodation” by an all powerful Feral government, there would be little limit to what government can claim to do in the interests of “protecting” Civil Rights. Goldwater thus opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because he was a man guided by First Principles not because he was a racist.
Goldwater indeed was a long-time member of the Arizona chapters of the NAACP and upon his arrival in Washington in the early 1950s, Goldwater led the effort to desegregate the Senate cafeteria after learning that his black legislative aid and been denied service because of her race. As an officer in the Air Force Reserve, Goldwater further was a staunch supporter of President Harry Truman’s effort to desegregate the Armed Services.
Unlike the virulent pro-segregationist LBJ, Goldwater had one of the most pro-equality and pro-liberty voting records on matters of race in the U.S. Senate. Yet predictably, Goldwater was pilloried as a racist for supporting liberty and the individual rights of business owners and the right of citizens to freely association over government social engineering.
While Goldwater supported those aspects of the bill that secured the voting rights of all citizens regardless of race, Goldwater as a matter of principle opposed Title II (public accommodations) and Title VII (fair employment) requirements because he correctly feared future government overreach. And just as Goldwater predicted, we now are witnessing government apparatchiks inflaming racial relations with hiring quotas, dictating who should bake cakes for who and — with this insane “transgender” agenda — reordering reality itself.
The reigning media establishment of the day castigated the Civil Rights champion Barry Goldwater as a racist bigot while lionizing the racist Lyndon B. Johnson as a visionary and transformative President. Why is that?
During the debate over the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Senator Barry Goldwater warned that once private businesses were dictated by legislative fiat into a “public accommodation” by an all powerful Feral government, there would be little limit to what government can claim to do in the interests of “protecting” Civil Rights. Goldwater thus opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because he was a man guided by First Principles not because he was a racist.
Goldwater indeed was a long-time member of the Arizona chapters of the NAACP and upon his arrival in Washington in the early 1950s, Goldwater led the effort to desegregate the Senate cafeteria after learning that his black legislative aid and been denied service because of her race. As an officer in the Air Force Reserve, Goldwater further was a staunch supporter of President Harry Truman’s effort to desegregate the Armed Services.
Unlike the virulent pro-segregationist LBJ, Goldwater had one of the most pro-equality and pro-liberty voting records on matters of race in the U.S. Senate. Yet predictably, Goldwater was pilloried as a racist for supporting liberty and the individual rights of business owners and the right of citizens to freely association over government social engineering.
While Goldwater supported those aspects of the bill that secured the voting rights of all citizens regardless of race, Goldwater as a matter of principle opposed Title II (public accommodations) and Title VII (fair employment) requirements because he correctly feared future government overreach. And just as Goldwater predicted, we now are witnessing government apparatchiks inflaming racial relations with hiring quotas, dictating who should bake cakes for who and — with this insane “transgender” agenda — reordering reality itself.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:04 pm to EphesianArmor
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If your point is that those guys (were you one of them?) who were drafted under coercion and forced to fight and die for a bogus war in Nam had their peace of mind, "hope" and "zero worries" stolen from them, I would completely agree.
Yeah it was a mess. Some guys shot themselves in the hand or foot to get rejected. A lot more fled to Canada.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:05 pm to weagle1999
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So, I guess the Greatest Generation (a term I don’t like btw) allowed all of this that we are dealing with today to start happening? Both by how they ran the country and how they raised their children.
Every generation since the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock has evolved to be more "liberal" than the past one. Your point on The Greatest Generation is weak because they are not responsible for what you/we did with the things that they gave us. They still whipped their kids, censored nasty TV and music, paid their debts/lived within their means, and still had the nuclear family primarily...
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:08 pm to VOR
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In the end, it’s kind of absurd to blame any single generation for historical evolution that you don’t like.
And here is another myth about the “evolution” of governance. It is simply an organic and inevitable wave of “progress” rather than the cumulative result of numerous policy decisions that were specifically designed to achieve a particular agenda.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:14 pm to Zach
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Yeah it was a mess. Some guys shot themselves in the hand or foot to get rejected. A lot more fled to Canada.
We can only imagine how crappy things were for those guys. You can understand why many went to Canada or maimed themselves to avoid Nam. This wasn't about "defending" America. Terribly sad situation all the way around.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:29 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Your point on The Greatest Generation is weak because they are not responsible for what you/we did with the things that they gave us
They passed the legislation in the 1960’s that allowed much of the bs that we are dealing with today to happen. And they kept doing so in the 1970’s.
So, yeah.
This post was edited on 12/21/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/21/25 at 3:33 pm to weagle1999
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when left wing ideas were allowed to expand in the US.
What would you have done exactly about ideas?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:00 pm to deltaland
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So, I guess the Greatest Generation (a term I don’t like btw) allowed all of this that we are dealing with today to start happening? Both by how they ran the country and how they raised their children.
Correct. They were a tough as nails generation because they suffered through the Great Depression and WW2. These hard times brought about a post war era of unprecedented prosperity and innovation and that generation did not want their kids or grandkids to suffer what they suffered through. The expansion of the welfare state, our current financial system and the creation of the deep state agencies due to the Cold War were honest efforts to ensure we didn’t get into another depression and to keep world peace. Unfortunately over time this grew to the behemoth and corrupt govt we have today.
But the real downward trend goes back to the early 1910s. Creation of the federal reserve, 16th amendment and 19th amendment sealed our fate
The real damage was accomplished when thousands of enlightened liberal European intellectuals found their way to the US after WWI and WWII and infested academia/higher education. By the mid 60's the Socialists, communists and Marxists had used their positions as college professors to indoctrinate a generation who then indoctrinated the next generation and so on.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 4:35 pm to GetmorewithLes
If anyone is responsible for the 1960's it's the generation before the "Greatest Generation". Too long to fight in WWII too young for WWI.
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