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re: Was W bush the worse president we’ve ever had?
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:45 pm to Padme
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:45 pm to Padme
Are you fking serious???? Bill Clinton created an expansion of WELFARE and NAFTA which KILLED a shite load of American jobs. You then have Obama the divider & chief that made race relations worse than ever before while giving away money & intel to our enemies. BIDEN/Obama opened the borders to criminals, insane asylum patients and expanded DEI. I don't like the Bush family but to say either Bush were worse than Clinton, Biden or Obama you must have your head examined. The Democrats HATE AMERICA. 
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:spank:Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:48 pm to hogcard1964
quote:Buchanan simply didn't do anything
Obama will go down as Buchanan or Carter bad
Obama actively sought to transform (destroy) the country
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:54 pm to Kafka
Obama was most certainly worse.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:07 pm to Padme
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Obviously Obama set this nation back a hundred years, but a snake does what a snake does. It’s because of Dubya that we got the chimp with huge ears. After 9-11, what does Bush do? He lets in muzzies by the thousands and starts spying on millions of Americans instead. Complete bizarro world. He wanted to be considered compassionate, so now we have the “religion of peace” taking over cities throughout the world. Thanks Dubya!!
And now we have the bush bros lining up against Paxton wanting to vote for a weird demonic “pastor” down in Bush country, and all they do is bitch about someone’s baggage while ignore the sheer freakiness of their own gay nominee for Texas senate. Stay out the Mutha F’ing bushes.
Woodrow Wilson was the worst in history.
But yeah, Bush is pretty bad. Worst republican president in modern history.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:09 pm to hogcard1964
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Obama was most certainly worse.
Didn't ruin the reputation and image of the republican party though.
Which is also what lead to him winning to start with.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:20 pm to Padme
I used to think the Bush’s were OK but when they refused to support Trump after he won the nomination the first time, frick em.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:40 pm to Padme
Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Biden, Obama
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:48 pm to RemyLeBeau
How has Herbert Hancock not been mentioned yet?
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:14 pm to Padme
No but I was thinking about this today and the fact the Clinton may be the best president we have had since Reagan. Him or Trump during his first term.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:34 pm to ArHog
LBJ.
Posted on 9/17/26 at 10:51 pm to Padme
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Was W bush the worse president we’ve ever had?
He was turrible BUT any President in the running for top 5 worst all have a “D” by their name…
Posted on 9/18/26 at 12:12 am to GREENHEAD22
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Reagan.
Reagan was awful
Posted on 9/18/26 at 12:44 am to Padme
I agree with the guy that threw the shoe at him in that press conference, if that tells you anything. I wish he would have hit him.
You can’t just grade The Bush’s the way you grade someone at a science fair. All the kids at the science fair are trying to win, The Bush’s are just following the plan that they came up with (it’s possible imo they are THE Power Family) or follow the orders of A or GROUP of families that they are a member of, but the Bush’s just be ther apparatus are the gets things done.
The CIA let it slip that GHWB possibly was in the CIA from way back, and IMO, he was definitely involved in the JFK Assasination. HW, W etc have all been prepped. their skills, and what the target is something I’d definitely looking into.
The Bush’s are some snakes! They are the ones that murdered almost an entire generation in Iraq. They are Mass killers that send many many people off the die just to please the MIC
You can’t just grade The Bush’s the way you grade someone at a science fair. All the kids at the science fair are trying to win, The Bush’s are just following the plan that they came up with (it’s possible imo they are THE Power Family) or follow the orders of A or GROUP of families that they are a member of, but the Bush’s just be ther apparatus are the gets things done.
The CIA let it slip that GHWB possibly was in the CIA from way back, and IMO, he was definitely involved in the JFK Assasination. HW, W etc have all been prepped. their skills, and what the target is something I’d definitely looking into.
The Bush’s are some snakes! They are the ones that murdered almost an entire generation in Iraq. They are Mass killers that send many many people off the die just to please the MIC
This post was edited on 9/18/26 at 12:47 am
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:04 am to Padme
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Obviously Obama set this nation back a hundred years, but a snake does what a snake does. It’s because of Dubya that we got the chimp with huge ears.
You are what’s wrong with this country.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:05 am to WKUHilltopper
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The CIA let it slip that GHWB possibly was in the CIA from way back
I take it you mean other than and before his time as the actual Director of CIA?
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:11 am to davyjones
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I take it you mean other than and before his time as the actual Director of CIA?
I’m starting to think we don’t have premium gray matter with some of these posts on this board.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:24 am to CitizenK
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Jimmy Carter
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He gave us the Ayatollah
One could make the argument that if Carter had a spine, then we wouldn't be exchanging missles with Iran on the reg.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 4:05 am to Padme
I dislike Bush 43, but think it depends on the definition of “worst” and I reduced it down to mean harmful. You could also convert harmful to mean cultural, racist, etc.
I then took that to the next level and converted harmful into taking actions that were intended or naively impacted our sovereignty. Then took it through AI and pressure tested responses extensively. Here is what I got.
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Question
Which presidencies produced the most consequential changes relevant to long-term U.S. sovereignty and national continuity through immigration, border control, and the government’s ability to determine who enters and remains in the country?
Answer
Two presidencies represent particularly significant but different inflection points:
Lyndon B. Johnson — structural immigration change. The 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act abolished the national-origins quota system and established the family- and employment-preference framework that became the foundation of modern U.S. immigration policy.
Joe Biden — border and migration-management change. His administration deliberately expanded lawful and humanitarian pathways and changed asylum and enforcement policies during a period of historically high migration. FY2023 southwest-border encounters reached a record 2.5 million, although the administration also removed/returned migrants and ultimately imposed substantially tighter asylum restrictions in June 2024, after which encounters declined sharply.
The distinction: Johnson represents a durable statutory restructuring of who America admits; Biden represents a major recent episode involving how the executive branch exercised immigration, asylum, parole, and border-enforcement authority. The long-term demographic and sovereignty consequences of the Biden period remain less measurable because it is much more recent.
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The above is just one example. So “worst” can be taken in many directions and more than likely could result in Carter, Obama, Bush 41, Bush 43, etc. all topping the list. Also focusing exclusively on presidents fails to acknowledge the actions or inaction of Congress and the part they can play.
I then took that to the next level and converted harmful into taking actions that were intended or naively impacted our sovereignty. Then took it through AI and pressure tested responses extensively. Here is what I got.
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Question
Which presidencies produced the most consequential changes relevant to long-term U.S. sovereignty and national continuity through immigration, border control, and the government’s ability to determine who enters and remains in the country?
Answer
Two presidencies represent particularly significant but different inflection points:
Lyndon B. Johnson — structural immigration change. The 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act abolished the national-origins quota system and established the family- and employment-preference framework that became the foundation of modern U.S. immigration policy.
Joe Biden — border and migration-management change. His administration deliberately expanded lawful and humanitarian pathways and changed asylum and enforcement policies during a period of historically high migration. FY2023 southwest-border encounters reached a record 2.5 million, although the administration also removed/returned migrants and ultimately imposed substantially tighter asylum restrictions in June 2024, after which encounters declined sharply.
The distinction: Johnson represents a durable statutory restructuring of who America admits; Biden represents a major recent episode involving how the executive branch exercised immigration, asylum, parole, and border-enforcement authority. The long-term demographic and sovereignty consequences of the Biden period remain less measurable because it is much more recent.
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The above is just one example. So “worst” can be taken in many directions and more than likely could result in Carter, Obama, Bush 41, Bush 43, etc. all topping the list. Also focusing exclusively on presidents fails to acknowledge the actions or inaction of Congress and the part they can play.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 4:54 am to Padme
That’s a hard call after watching Joe Biden as president.W will ultimately be remembered for the Patriot Act and the governmental spying that it brought, long term, I don’t believe he will be remembered well, but he won’t be remembered as the worst.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 6:33 am to hogcard1964
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Obama will go down
We are talking about Dubya. Leave Big Mike out of this.
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