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re: Was the DDT scare of the 1960s junk science and fake news?

Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:39 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:39 am to
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Maybe we should bring back DDT so we can scuttle Bill Gates' plans to infect us all with his mosquitos.



That's what got me thinking about it.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:43 am to
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It was a pickup with a tank and big sprayer and it just pumped stuff into the air. I'm pretty sure it was DDT they were spraying.

It wasn’t always DDT because they did that well into the 2000s in EBR. They still have mosquito trucks in Texas. I saw one a couple of weeks ago.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:51 am to
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Sounds an awful lot like cannabis.





'Follow the money' will quite often explain many things.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:54 am to
We bombed Honduras in the 50's over bananas. We said it was because their newly elected leader was in league with the USSR, but the real reason was that the United Fruit Company's puppet dictator lost to a guy who promised to kick UFC out of Honduras.

The CIA got involved. New York PR advertising machines organized the whole thing. We literally bombed their country over it. And that was the 50's. So yeah, I think a lot of this shite is just corporate warfare posing as some kind of altruistic struggle. That includes pretty much every war for the last century.
Posted by mmonro3
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:55 am to
St Bernard parish still uses mosquitoe trucks!
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:58 am to
IIRC: some dingbat activist under the guise of science lied about DDT.

Kids chased the skeeter truck fog and are fine.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:59 am to
they do skeeter trucks here but maybe twice a summer. no DDT sprayed.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:05 am to
Everything that I have read about DDT's affects on bird populations seem to be true.
Also, stop with the "Fake News" labels for God's sake.
Being wrong about a subject due to limited information, or reporting what a trusted source who is wrong is saying is not Fake News. Fake news happens when the media reports something that they know to be false, to sway public opinion. The DDT story does not apply.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:07 am to
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Fake news happens when the media reports something that they know to be false, to sway public opinion.



Oh no, no, no.

Many times the media believes it.
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:08 am to
I’m old enough to remember all the scientists screaming about Global Cooling.

Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:10 am to
Sure, it was fake news that all the moss was gone from the oak trees, and there were no Pelicans or Eagles. Dummy!
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:13 am to
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Sure, it was fake news that all the moss was gone from the oak trees, and there were no Pelicans or Eagles.


Was there a possible explanation other than DDT?
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:17 am to
Yes, junk science. Malaria deaths from mosquitoes increased when they banned it.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:23 am to
DDT is still used for disease control in places, such as Africa, South America and Asia, where malaria is more common.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:34 am to
Jake “The Snake” Roberts and Arn Anderson say the scare was warranted.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:40 am to
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Literally millions of people.


Yeah, I've read analysis that puts the increase in malaria deaths at about 5-7 million. Of course most of that was in 3rd world countries so we didn't notice it in the U.S.

Bobby Tom Malthus would approve.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:43 am to
If I recall correctly,the rodents eaten by the giant condor had ingested ddt and it caused their egg shells to be so fragile that they nearly went extinct.
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:49 am to
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We have bald eagles back in SWLA. Never saw them growing up. Now they are everywhere.


Allegedly the ban on killing them had the numbers recovering prior to the ddt ban
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:50 am to
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Was there a possible explanation other than DDT?

Yes. Evil corporations wanted to convince us that DDT was to blame, so they hired people to go out in the wild and choke all the Pelicans and Eagles to death and to yank all the moss from the trees. It worked, too!
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:56 am to
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they hired people to go out in the wild and choke all the Pelicans and Eagles to death and to yank all the moss from the trees. It worked, too!


Well that is an alternative explanation but I don't think that many people will assign it much credibility.


I did see a cite to a study that suggested something other than DDT.

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There is another possibly confounding issue as well. In 1998, Royal Society for the Protection of Birds researcher Rhys Green published a study in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B which found that eggshell thinning of some bird species had begun 50 years before the introduction of DDT.
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