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re: Was Hillary picking Tim Kaine the worst decision she made in the entire campaign?

Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:28 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73520 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:28 am to
Deciding to run again was the worst decision. I hope she makes it again.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32564 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:28 am to
Tim Kaine is almost as detestable as she is. She needed someone likable to round her out. At the very least, she needed a real man not a peter puffer like Kaine.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33949 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:29 am to
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Was Hillary picking Tim Kaine the worst decision she made in the entire campaign?


Not even close. She won Virginia narrowly (50%-44%) over Trump. There's a very good chance that she would have lost that state if she hadn't chosen Kaine. Kaine as a VP choice was a hell of a lot better than Paul Ryan who couldn't even deliver Wisconsin for Romney.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:32 am to
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Tim Kaine is almost as detestable as she is.


Agreed. As a Virginian, I can't stand that limp-wristed dork. It's embarrassing that VA has allowed NOVA to forever change it to a blue state.

There are so many good hard working people that don't deserve progressive policies being foisted upon them down the road.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28946 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:45 am to
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Her ignoring pretty much every midwestern state was her worst decision.




i think there's a plethora of bad decisions that all culminate with her losing MI, OH, IA, and PA.

It can be chalked up to Kaine (or not picking somebody other than him,) not campaigning there, deplorables, etc.

one thing people forget is the black vote that Trump sought and got enough of apparently in some of those states that swayed things. Trump actively campaigned in urban Michigan.... and won a higher % of black votes than McCain or Romney.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:49 am to
What is wrong with you, I mean are you sexist? HILLARY DID NOTHING WRONG. She ran a flawless campaign that she would have won if it wasn't for misogyny, racism, Russians, James Comey, Wikileaks, Bernie Sanders, and because women can't think for themselves.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118883 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:15 am to
One thing Hillary has going for her:

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108676 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:19 am to
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Her ignoring pretty much every midwestern state was her worst decision.



That and calling Trump supporters a basket of deplorables.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108676 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:20 am to
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How would he do that? He's just another lifetime/professional politician making the same bullshite speeches.



Biden is the one democrat who actually understands the center of the country. He would have definitely given Hillary Pennsylvania, and probably Michigan and Wisconsin as well.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108676 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:25 am to
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She won Virginia narrowly (50%-44%) over Trump. There's a very good chance that she would have lost that state if she hadn't chosen Kaine.


And she could have gotten PA, MI, and WI if she had chosen Biden. I'm sorry, but it was still a retarded decision just to get VA.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:40 am to
I disagree. The worse decision was choosing Hildabeast as the democrat presidential candidate. I mean let's just consider her health impediment alone. The woman coughed (uncontrollably) her way through speech after speech. Got so bad during one speech (somewhere) Tim Kaine reached into his pocket to get her a cough drop. Very awkward. I mean the woman lost control and gagged and coughed throughout the speech. Poor woman. Can you imagine her coughing her way through a speech at the UN or a State of the Union speech? Then there was that collapsing spell at the 9/11/16 memorial. Ouch! I sincerely hope someone was able to help her with that coughing problem.

Tim Kaine is a clown, and he was chosen precisely because he was a clown. You know Court Jester kind of thing.
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2989 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:43 am to
Kaine was given the nod when the deal was struck to put DWS as the head of the DNC. This is how Hillary rigged the primary, thus allowing her to defeat Bernie. If not for the deal with Kaine Hillary would not have been the nominee.
Posted by Cassius
Member since Sep 2017
105 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:13 am to
She won Virginia
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112524 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:27 am to
I keep up with politics a lot but I have to confess that I never heard of Tim Kaine prior to the campaign.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:30 am to
I'm glad someone finally brought this up.

Picking Tim Kaine single-handedly soured the enthusiasm of blacks, latinos, and whatever white males were left
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99141 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:31 am to
Together, they were Kaine and Unable ...
Posted by monceaux
Houston
Member since Sep 2013
1182 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Clinton doesn't like being the second best liked person in the room.


To be fair, this only happens when 2 people are in a room.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57271 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:44 am to
No. Her calling Trump supporters a "basket of deplorables" tops my list. It was literally over for her once those words came from her mouth.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30078 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:49 am to
no, running was the worst decission

calling 60% of america deplorables was #2

hiring those woman to make false rape alegations was #3

but picking kane was down there in the double digits
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15048 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:18 pm to
She should have chosed Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown and told him to go bat-freak crazy as a campaigned in PA, OH, WI, MI.

Probably would have gotten those in that case.
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