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Was Bob Dole really the best the Republicans could muster in 1996?
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:22 pm
I need to go back and review that primary slate. Bon Dole was admittedly on his political game back then. But dang, he did not have much vision compared to Bill Clinton. Why wasn’t anyone more formidable put forward to take on this hot shot kid who backs pores into the White House thanks to Ross Perot?
Side question: Why didn't HW Bush run again? I’m sure some voters would have come back to him.
Side question: Why didn't HW Bush run again? I’m sure some voters would have come back to him.
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:24 pm to TDFreak
Outside of W and Trump, the GOP has a bad habit of nominating candidates who had waited their turn. That’s what happened with Dole.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:25 pm to TDFreak
Nope
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:31 pm to TDFreak
No repub was beating clinton in 1996.
The economy was hot, bill was an incredible politician who convinced a whole lot of folks that he was a "new type of democrat" aka moderate and reasonable.
Also, the country had just had an era where repubs controlled the WH for all but 4 years between 1968 and 1992.
Voters wanted to give dems some more years.
In the event of an inevitable outcome, then someone like Dole deserved to be given the nomination, as a token of gratitude for his many decades of public service.
Also.....bob dole did the best he could and actually saved quite a few gop seats in congress. the polls showed bill and the dems winning in a huge double digit landslide. clinton underperfmed the polls and that cost the dems some seats.
The economy was hot, bill was an incredible politician who convinced a whole lot of folks that he was a "new type of democrat" aka moderate and reasonable.
Also, the country had just had an era where repubs controlled the WH for all but 4 years between 1968 and 1992.
Voters wanted to give dems some more years.
In the event of an inevitable outcome, then someone like Dole deserved to be given the nomination, as a token of gratitude for his many decades of public service.
Also.....bob dole did the best he could and actually saved quite a few gop seats in congress. the polls showed bill and the dems winning in a huge double digit landslide. clinton underperfmed the polls and that cost the dems some seats.
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 6/13/21 at 11:32 pm to TDFreak
all potential candidates knew Clinton was going to win. this country was too stupid even then
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:10 am to TDFreak
Dole was the equivalent of 2008 McCain. “It’s his turn.” “Oh and he was in the military!!”
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:11 am to arcalades
quote:
potential candidates knew Clinton was going to win.
Clinton doesn’t win either election without Perot.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 5:01 am to TDFreak
I think Newt could have given Clinton a run in 1996.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 5:04 am to TDFreak
Bill Clinton never got over 50% of the popular vote.
43% in '92. 49% in '96.
Thanks Ross!
Posted on 6/14/21 at 5:37 am to TDFreak
No. Both he and McCain were "payoffs" for their years of service to the Uniparty.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:34 am to SCLibertarian
Would have been an awesome president. Establishment was scared to death of him.
Came up just short in Arizona and South Carolina, after beating Phil Graham in the first in the nation Louisiana caucus.
Came up just short in Arizona and South Carolina, after beating Phil Graham in the first in the nation Louisiana caucus.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:37 am to AURaptor
quote:
Bill Clinton never got over 50% of the popular vote.
43% in '92. 49% in '96.
Thanks Ross!
Being young and a bit of an idealist I voted Perot in '92.
That is a big reason I hate libertarians today.
3rd parties, that have zero chance of winning, have screwed up more than one election.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:40 am to TDFreak
He was the good soldier and it was his turn. Yawn.
As noted above, pit bull Pat Buchanan was the best choice at the time, IMO.
As noted above, pit bull Pat Buchanan was the best choice at the time, IMO.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:41 am to AURaptor
Being RINOs, I doubt there would have been 10% worth of difference in the policies of Bush/Dole vs. Clinton.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:47 am to TDFreak
A candidate running on Clinton’s 1996 platform would be considered an extreme conservative today
Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
No repub was beating clinton in 1996.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:08 am to AURaptor
quote:
Bill Clinton never got over 50% of the popular vote.
43% in '92. 49% in '96.
Thanks Ross!
I don't blame Perot for 1996.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:21 am to Wally Sparks
Until Trump Republicans allowed the media to pick our candidate.
Hopefully, we remember this in 2024.
Hopefully, we remember this in 2024.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:23 am to TDFreak
Yes. He spent three year lining ip endorsements and the donor cartel. Buchanan didn't have the $$$ to break through and the GOP establishment came out against him.
Carrol Campbell would've been great but didn't run. GOP didn't have the bench of governors it has now.
Carrol Campbell would've been great but didn't run. GOP didn't have the bench of governors it has now.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:27 am to prplhze2000
Pat Buchanan was sort of a prophet and way ahead of his time. Death of the West is a pretty good read for the non neocons out there.
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