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re: Warner to introduce an amendment to block the President from revoking security clearances

Posted on 8/19/18 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62637 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 7:52 am to
The responses to that tweet aren't what the senator imagined.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:09 am to
If Congress created a right to a clearance by statute, we would have a shite storm in the courts. Same goes if the courts somehow decided the same.

Many military and govt employees need a clearance. Making it some sort of 'right' would completely change the landscape of granting them. It would also overhaul every bit of how they can be discharged / fired. Due process requirements would change across the board.

It would be chaos.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53716 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:11 am to
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arbitrarily revoking security clearances.


This is why no one trusts people in Congress
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48016 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:16 am to
I lost my SECRET clearance in '94 when I left NASA when Clinton was POTUS. I was a frequent critic of Clinton at the time. It has been tortuous this past quarter-century being muzzled and afraid to show my face in public.

Please Mark, hurry up with that amendment - I am desperate to come out of the shadows and exercise my long-abused so-called 'right' of free speech. Being discriminated against has ruined my life.

I cudda been a contendah!!!

eta - hell - they even cut off the corner of my access card/ID so that I have to be escorted if I go back to the same offices I worked in for over 30 years!!! for SHAME for SHAME.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 8:20 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116708 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:21 am to
Amendment? To the Constitution? Hell, where does he think he is? Louisiana?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109672 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:23 am to
It's fun seeing progressives knight so hard for government spooks.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48016 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:31 am to
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Amendment? To the Constitution?


My first thought too.

But he is probably going to try attaching it to some appropriations bill. Should be rejected as 'unconstitutional - if you want that your amendment should be to the constitution.'
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57895 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 9:50 am to
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Mark Warner on Twitter: "I will be introducing an amendment next week to block the President from punishing and intimidating his critics by arbitrarily revoking security clearances. Stay tuned."


Oh pleeeeeeeease do this! I like seeing the political opposition trying to jump sharks, it amuses me greatly.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135538 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 9:51 am to
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Warner to introduce an amendment to block the President from revoking security clearances
Unconstitutional and STUPID!
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:11 am to
The president can classify, and declassify information as he sees fit. He can revoke access as he sees fit.

That’s how the system works, it’s the creation of the executive branch.

*nuclear secrets being the one exception.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27889 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:15 am to
Nuclear and undercover agents identities, even after they have left the CIA
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62001 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:16 am to
I like how the media and Dems think the president is subordinate to agencies like the FBI, DOJ, CIA, etc. And how they conclude that it's not in his powers to revoke the security clearance of an ex-CIA head.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14499 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:17 am to
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27889 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:18 am to
People are also overlooking someone on the inside HAD to be giving him the info he was leaking to the press. He was out of the game as far as I can tell. Just because you are cleared you can’t walk into the CIA and look up shite. He had clearance but would’ve had 0 access.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14718 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:19 am to
This and those that do have no appreciation for its greatness and the crafters.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62567 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:19 am to
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How do these people really try to justify this as a violation of his first amendment rights?
How couldnit possibly be a violation of free speech to remove access to material they are legally bound to not talk about publically? This is like double-speak.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 11:21 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84324 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:20 am to
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People are also overlooking someone on the inside HAD to be giving him the info he was leaking to the press. He was out of the game as far as I can tell. Just because you are cleared you can’t walk into the CIA and look up shite. He had clearance but would’ve had 0 access.
This is why they are howling over this, makes it harder to leak and spin.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162623 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:50 am to
rut roh Clapper turning on Brennan...
quote:

Clapper: Brennan's rhetoric is becoming an issue | TheHill
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Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Sunday that he thinks former CIA Director John Brennan's rhetoric is becoming an issue "in and of itself."

"John and his rhetoric have become an issue in and of itself," Clapper said on CNN's "State of the Union." "John is subtle like a freight train and he’s gonna say what’s on his mind."

Clapper's comments came in response to an op-ed penned by Brennan in The New York Times this week, in which he wrote that President Trump colluded with Russia during the 2016 election.

Clapper said he empathized with Brennan, but voiced concerns for Brennan's fiery rhetoric toward Trump and his administration.

"I think that the common denominator among all of us [in the intelligence community] that have been speaking up … is genuine concern about the jeopardy and threats to our institutions," Clapper said.

Brennan's claims drew criticism from some in the intelligence community who said the timing was suspect.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) on Thursday took aim at Brennan for "purport[ing] to know, as fact, that the Trump campaign colluded with a foreign power."

“If his statement is based on intelligence he has seen since leaving office, it constitutes an intelligence breach. If he has some other personal knowledge of or evidence of collusion, it should be disclosed to the special counsel, not The New York Times,” Burr said.

Burr added that Trump has the “full authority” to rescind security clearance if the statements were “purely political and based on conjecture.”
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:52 am to
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cajunangelle


Seriously how do you have time to post this much on a message board. And they are not quick posts, some of them are very elaborate and take a good bit of editing. Do you work?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162623 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:02 pm to
I am actually working at home today. I have probably done more physical work in my newly constructed home-(a porch built, painting, landscaping...that I absolutely love to do.) than most since-- 6am this morning with coffee and water breaks to cool off and post here. I am semi retired. Why do you care? A little too personal, aye?

I just posted another article call the SWAT team. JJdoc is on vacay... A lot of news out today, no?
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