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re: Wall Funding Off the Table - Trump Admin to GIVE Mexico $4.8 BILLION

Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by PointsInCase
Member since Dec 2009
698 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:10 pm to
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I feel like I'm getting effed by Trump at this point but if Mexico gives it back to pay for the wall I will put his picture on my wall.
There was never going to be a wall. It was an issue created to get votes/support.

Illegal immigration (the majority of which consists of Mexicans and Central Americans) has been on the decline for quite a while, despite what’s implied by the right-wing media. I’m all for better border security, but not to an extreme level. If people really want to get in, they will (wall or no wall), especially given that new technologies will likely make it easier from a purely physical standpoint. We should instead devote money to so many other more important thing that will impact our future.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262994 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:12 pm to
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I think the idea is for those countries to take care of their own people so they won't need to come here. We all know that isn't gonna happen though.


The real solution is eliminate the need for them to come here illegally instead of building a wall
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5484 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:13 pm to
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The real solution is eliminate the need for them to come here illegally instead of building a wall



Absolutely.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112886 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:15 pm to
Eliminate entitlements
Punish businesses who hire them

Liberals don’t want to touch the former and chamber of commerce beholden Republicans don’t want to do the latter
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47882 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:17 pm to
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$4.8 Billion to Mexico, $5.8 Billion to Central American countries. That's $10.6 Billion in aid and ...

No Wall funding - or, at least no requirement of Wall funding to avoid a government shutdown.



...and somewhere in the distance a wild Ann Coulter screams.....
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112722 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:17 pm to
Some left wing sites have video demonstrations how people can get over any wall. The athletes who do it are very fit.
But Mexico is the most obese nation in the world.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262994 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Eliminate entitlements
Punish businesses who hire them

Liberals don’t want to touch the former and chamber of commerce beholden Republicans don’t want to do the latter


This is all true.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17439 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:24 pm to
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There was never going to be a wall. It was an issue created to get votes/support.


Well then there is never going to be a second term.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26453 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:37 pm to
I really believe Trump is well aware of the fact he'll not be re-elected, or possibly even finish his first term. He doesn't have the political support for The Wall now, so a Bandaid approach through foreign aid is the only viable solution.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26453 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:42 pm to
So America leads the world in fatness. What does that have to do with The Wall?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:42 pm to
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Why is he doing this? Any ideas?


your own link says $$$ goes to economic development. Jobs.
If there's good work people less inclined to go to us a.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25177 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:44 pm to
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The real solution is eliminate the need for them to come here illegally instead of building a wall
While I agree with this statement, I don't see it happening. The wall is a physical barrier. They're still going to pour across the border no matter what we do for their countries.

I'm tired of moving the fricking goalposts on this issue. If the wall is completely off the table, the die hards on this board can continue to suck Trump off, but I'm out in supporting him on this issue.

He's been great in many other areas but this is one of the things we can't afford to just keep ignoring. This is a monumental broken promise if Trump doesn't find a way to fund a physical barrier.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9949 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:46 pm to
This will cost him re-election in my opinion.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Wall Funding Off the Table


lol. it was never on the table.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:48 pm to
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This will cost him re-election in my opinion.


whatever.

But not obstruction of justice, not being co-conspirator with Cohen, not co-conspirator with Putin.

Ok.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:49 pm to
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My question is what happened to the trillion dollar infrastructure campaign promise


Fear of Mexicans/ immigrants much more politically advantageous to Trump than the crumbling infrastructure he promised to upgrade.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:50 pm to
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This will cost him re-election in my opinion.



Read my lips, "No new TAXES".
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:57 pm to
Trump can’t claim to be the master deal maker if there is no wall in 2020.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112722 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:01 pm to
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So America leads the world in fatness. What does that have to do with The Wall?


Ah, you can't read.
MEXICO leads the world in fatness. They're trying to climb over the wall.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91163 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:03 pm to
It would be hilarious if trump secretly made a deal with Mexico to send aid money in return they pay for the wall
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