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re: Virginia Donors Demand $3.6 Billion From University for Removing Ancestor’s Name
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:52 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:52 pm to conservativewifeymom
I was talking to a client the other day that is a Harvard alum. He said he wants to remove Harvard from his estate planning documents because he did not like what he saw the last time he went there. Said the people have lost their minds.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:54 pm to mwade91383
VMI is no longer conservative. Those assholes even took down Stonewall Jackson's statue. They will probably dig up the cadets buried on campus that died at New Market.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:55 pm to AU86
Until the alumni start cutting them off and not sending their kids there this dumb shite won’t stop.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:58 pm to roadGator
I use to visit VMI and Washington and Lee every year. When they did this I haven't been back. To hell with them.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:01 pm to AU86
You mean the students who’s name every rat has to memorize and recite? Who’s paintings are all over their chapel/buildings? Yeah they’re not giving that up.
I have many friends who are VMI grads, despite a statue here or there, the overwhelming political leanings of that community hasn’t changed.
All of Lexington (including W&L) is very conservative.
I have many friends who are VMI grads, despite a statue here or there, the overwhelming political leanings of that community hasn’t changed.
All of Lexington (including W&L) is very conservative.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:02 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
“It might be worthwhile for you to require every woke activist to take a course in finance to appreciate those for whom [sic] they want to cancel,” Smith wrote in his January letter to Hallock.
Why is there a [sic] after whom?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:10 pm to OceanMan
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You just can’t imagine this happening to you. This school is likely a huge part of their lives. This family has donated to and attended the school for hundreds of years. Many of those donations, if not most, were induced by the fact that the family name was on the sides of buildings. Most of the donations occurred after abolishment (implicitly stated in the article). They kept taking the money for centuries. Dismissing this story because this guy comes from a wealthy family is lame. It actually illustrates a very interesting paradox that one would have to assume will become more common: if the name is rooted in racism and must be thrown out, what about the cash?how can you have it both ways? Maybe the cash doesn’t go back to the family but how does the school get to keep it?
All fair enough. For me a primary distinction is the gifts in question largely appear to be made over 100 years ago. So I think the school can keep the money with no hypocrisy.
At a certain point if society is to function, the past has to be just that. It’s the reason statue of limitations exists. The world has to move on. If this family made donations recently and the school wants to give it back perhaps they should. But believing you have some claim to property transferred more than a century ago by people you’ve never met simply because of lineage is a provincial way of thinking.
It’s entitled, decisive and in many ways the flip side of people who want reparations for things done to ancestors over a century ago. Everyone has ancestors that have been aggrieved.
And this guy can rightfully feel pissed off the school is pulling a family name. But thinking that money should accrete to you or anyone else 140 years later is a road to no where.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:13 pm to ned nederlander
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statue of limitations
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:14 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
Does the organization refuse the gift?
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:16 pm to ned nederlander
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But thinking that money should accrete to you or anyone else 140 years later is a road to no where.
Same with reparations?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:21 pm to conservativewifeymom
I only hope the current administrators like Tate have their names drug through the mud and vilified in 50 years when people look back and realize that encouraging mentally ill individuals to cut their genitals off was wrong.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:25 pm to conservativewifeymom
Seems completely reasonable to me.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:44 pm to conservativewifeymom
Wow
I posted this story a week or more ago
Then it was 50 some Million
Now it’s 3.6B?
What happened?
I posted this story a week or more ago
Then it was 50 some Million
Now it’s 3.6B?
What happened?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:49 pm to AU86
quote:
But thinking that money should accrete to you or anyone else 140 years later is a road to no where.
Same with reparations?
Yes. That’s kind of the whole point I’m making. So for the second time in this thread I’ll say reparations are a really dumb idea.
Now I’m wondering if the guy is really playing 4D chess in demanding a remedy that is so stupid on its face just so he can throw it back at the pro reparations crowd. If so well played Robert Smith.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:33 pm to conservativewifeymom
As a current resident of Richmond, VA...I hope they get every penny.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:39 pm to LuckyTiger
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Remember, if I told you 20 years ago that men dressed as women could use women’s bathrooms and locker rooms in 20 years you would have laughed.
Some of us were warning everyone that was where we were headed during the gay “marriage” battles. We weren’t laughed at. We were called every vile name in the book from the left and right - but here we are.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:57 pm to mwade91383
What about the leaders of the schools? Which way do they lean politically? Honestly don't know but I'd assume it could be found out. The community being conservative is useless information if the leaders of the schools are liberal. The communities around the schools aren't populating the student bodies of the schools. Definitely not in enough numbers to significantly matter.
I know UofR very well and the community around it(I grew up in it) and nothing you've posted is untrue but times are changing. Traditionally conservative neighborhoods are roundabout being forced to "liberalize" themselves through the guise of section 8, which is being forced in communities who don't want it. The swamp plays 4d chess. Conservatives are still playing around with jacks.
I know UofR very well and the community around it(I grew up in it) and nothing you've posted is untrue but times are changing. Traditionally conservative neighborhoods are roundabout being forced to "liberalize" themselves through the guise of section 8, which is being forced in communities who don't want it. The swamp plays 4d chess. Conservatives are still playing around with jacks.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:10 pm to lsufanva
One of Jordan Peterson's warnings, when he was fighting that Canadian bill to mandate "proper" trans pronouns, was that he was forecasting these exact developments down the road. He said that the bill was opening the door to just what is now happening everywhere.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 10:11 pm to lsufanva
I also know U of R (almost went there for grad school) and the area really well.
I don’t know a lot about Hallock or Perdue but I haven’t seen anything that suggests either is some radical liberal or that this initiative came from either, although I’m sure it crossed both of their desks.
The neighborhood comment was simply to point out it wasn’t about being neighborly. There was no pressure from them to do this, was my point. Place is/was covered in Youngkin signs.
Lol ain’t no section 8 housing off River Road.
I don’t know a lot about Hallock or Perdue but I haven’t seen anything that suggests either is some radical liberal or that this initiative came from either, although I’m sure it crossed both of their desks.
The neighborhood comment was simply to point out it wasn’t about being neighborly. There was no pressure from them to do this, was my point. Place is/was covered in Youngkin signs.
Lol ain’t no section 8 housing off River Road.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 10:12 pm
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