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Virginia Donors Demand $3.6 Billion From University for Removing Ancestor’s Name

Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:24 pm
Love this, can't wait to see how it plays out!

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The University of Richmond has removed the name of donor T.C. Williams from its law school, citing student complaints that he allegedly owned slaves more than 175 years ago.

The Williams family now wants the Virginia university to give back donations they’ve made throughout the years, with interest, in the amount of $3.6 billion.

Robert Smith, who graduated from the law school that formerly bore his great-great-grandfather’s name, told The Epoch Times that if the family name is no longer good enough for the university, neither are family’s financial contributions.

“It might be worthwhile for you to require every woke activist to take a course in finance to appreciate those for whom [sic] they want to cancel,” Smith wrote in his January letter to Hallock.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:26 pm to
They’ll most likely lose. But I like highlighting hypocrisy.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:28 pm to
A lawsuit has not yet been filed. Why do you think they'd lose? It may well depend on any original documents that define the conditions for the family's financial support.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29165 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:32 pm to
Doubt they'll get it back unless there was some sort of clause that the name has to stay to get the donations but still great to hear them stand up to this shite.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:33 pm to
Yea they’ll lose because a lot of colleges and other organizations will cease to exist if they have to give back after canceling someone.

But highlighting the stupidity of cancelling is always fun and it causes them some headaches, so good.

The more interesting aspect will be how this affects gifting going forward. Specifically, if gift givers begin drawing instruments stipulating that schools, organizations, etc have to return gifts should they cancel. Does the organization refuse the gift? Do they accept and think any future enforcement attempt will be invalidated by courts?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24893 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:36 pm to
F'in around leads to Finding out.

I'm all for it.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Virginia Donors Demand $3.6 Billion From University for Removing Ancestor’s Name



Posted by ErnMcCracken
Member since Jan 2023
267 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:38 pm to
Everything that goes woke turns to shat
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6404 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:40 pm to
Whatever happened with LSU and the Middleton family? Did LSU return the artifacts?

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This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 5:42 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Why do you think they'd lose?

Gift

quote:

It may well depend on any original documents that define the conditions for the family's financial support.

Yes, possible.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4268 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:40 pm to
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The Williams family now wants the Virginia university to give back donations they’ve made throughout the years, with interest, in the amount of $3.6 billion.


I’m guessing no one will be happy if we call this Indian giving.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Donors


not sure what legal standing they'd have to demand a donation be returned, but I love that this is happening.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Whatever happened with LSU and the Middleton family? Did LSU return the artifacts?


bump

Would like to know.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:45 pm to
This is all I could find about the resolution of the Middleton Family's lawsuit against LSU:

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It looks like other LSU donors decided to use the collection of military memorabilia to furnish the newly-renovated LSU Military Museum.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15410 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:47 pm to
This brings me joy. I would Loved to have signed the lawsuit.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45200 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:49 pm to
George Washington owned over 200 slaves.

How long does his name have now? 20 years?

Remember, if I told you 20 years ago that men dressed as women could use women’s bathrooms and locker rooms in 20 years you would have laughed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 5:52 pm to
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Why do you think they'd lose?


Donors have very limited rights when it comes to charitable donations.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19467 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:22 pm to
The school will lose future donations at the very least.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4268 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:24 pm to
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not sure what legal standing they'd have to demand a donation be returned, but I love that this is happening.


They have none, hence why this is just a letter sent to the school and not an actual lawsuit.

“It might be worthwhile for you to require every woke activist to take a course in finance to appreciate those for whom they want to cancel."

Counterpoint, it might be worthwhile for Mr. Smith to spend five minutes thinking through whether it’s a good idea to give a private right of action or other restitution to descendants for events that involved their ascendents 150 years ago.

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Smith used coarse language in his letter, calling Hallock "a carpet bagging weasel,"


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He added that Williams and all three of his brothers 'did their duty to protect their wives, children, homes and public institutions from a voracious and plundering invader' while serving in the Confederacy in the Civil War.


Just spit balling, but I’m guessing this guy doesn’t think highly of US Grant’s tactical acumen.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
749 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:26 pm to
I agree..what are the odds of that
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