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re: Video of UnitedHealthCare CEO Execution
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:31 am to monsterballads
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:31 am to monsterballads
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Seems personal. Doesn’t seem like a hired hit.
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:57 am to Sam Quint
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Since you know all this, does that make you a pro?
No, it makes me someone who can apply common sense to what he's seeing in the video. I don't know why this seems so difficult for some of you. Dude hit the Starbucks before killing his target. It appears his first shot was in the victim's leg. His setup doesn't work. He leaves witnesses and brass. None of that says "pro" to me. Disagree if you want.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:02 am to troyt37
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None of that says "pro" to me
I agree.
The brass had messages inscribed on them.
He wanted them to be found.
This was a delivery of a social/political message.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:10 am to John Barron
Let’s see what a dude with more confirmed kills than can be counted has to say:
Shrek “this dude is not a pro”
Shrek “this dude is not a pro”
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:11 am to troyt37
quote:Whatever it was, the shooter was rehearsed and the shooting preplanned. Likely a change of clothes in his backpack, knowledge of off camera locations to do the change, and let him slip away. Message on the shells points to passion rather than professional. But he seems pretty calm for this to be his first rodeo.
None of that says "pro" to me. Disagree if you want.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:19 am to troyt37
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He leaves witnesses and brass.
He left brass with words written on it, which means he left it intentionally.
Witnesses won't matter that much if he is masked. He could have even been wearing prosthetics under his hood. And you're not going to shoot someone in Manhattan without witnesses. It's virtually impossible.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:24 am to troyt37
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His setup doesn't work. He leaves witnesses and brass.
Brass had messages on it, so don't think he cared. It's also on video. If there are no fingerprints or traceability on the brass, who cares. There's plenty of other evidence.
As far as not working, subsonic ammo will not work in many guns. The load is reduced to not break the sound barrier. Not always enough power to cycle a slide. He did not look like he panicked when that happened. He knew exactly how to clear the rounds. I mean, he didn't look like an operator doing it, but he was experienced enough. Not saying he was a pro or anything, but he thought it out and didn't panic.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:27 am to AUstar
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He left brass with words written on it, which means he left it intentionally.
Probably, but unfired rounds certainly weren't intentional. They are from having to rack the slide several times because his rig didn't work.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:30 am to Jon A thon
If this guy isn't a Professional Killer, he may have missed his true calling. His meticulous planning was something out of a Jason Bourne novel.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:32 am to John Barron
Whomever is responsible for this "hit" is an amateur. I personally believe the shooter is a disgruntled client seeking retribution for a family member done wrong by the insurance company.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:36 am to Jon A thon
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Brass had messages on it, so don't think he cared. It's also on video. If there are no fingerprints or traceability on the brass, who cares. There's plenty of other evidence.
Agree, but I think it probably points to someone who was screwed over by this guy or his company.
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As far as not working, subsonic ammo will not work in many guns. The load is reduced to not break the sound barrier. Not always enough power to cycle a slide. He did not look like he panicked when that happened. He knew exactly how to clear the rounds. I mean, he didn't look like an operator doing it, but he was experienced enough. Not saying he was a pro or anything, but he thought it out and didn't panic.
Racking the slide is something you learn within a few minutes of shooting your first semi-auto pistol. It's a natural reaction to the gun not firing when you pull the trigger. I have no doubt that the killer planned this for a while, I just think a professional would have a rig that worked.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:06 am to AUstar
Looks like we have a Zodiac Hitman 
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:25 am to John Barron
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Looks like we have a Zodiac Hitman
Psycho Killer....Qu'est-ce que c'est?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:58 am to partsman103
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Whomever is responsible for this "hit" is an amateur. I personally believe the shooter is a disgruntled client seeking retribution for a family member done wrong by the insurance company.
An amateur who walked into a Starbucks, bought a coffee exposing half his face, locates target, waits, executes with the easiness of Sunday morning, then walks off never rushed or distracted.
36 hours later, nothing.
Yeah, total amateur.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:40 am to OchoDedos
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His meticulous planning was something out of a Jason Bourne novel.
like going to starbucks before the kill and not using gloves? ok
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:53 am to monsterballads
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like going to starbucks before the kill and not using gloves? ok
Community Note: Members added context
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:58 am to OchoDedos
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 12:54 pm to Pezzo
Gun jammed
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:11 pm to Wolfwireless
Plenty of pics...he was gloveless
Posted on 12/6/24 at 7:32 am to Wolfwireless
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Agreed here. No way it's the VP9.
Simply for the question of "Why?"
Why would somebody use such a specialty piece, hard to come by, and easy to distinguish with LEO for a PUBLIC hit?
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According to CBS News, police believe the murder weapon is a B&T Station SIX-9, which comes equipped with a sound-suppressor and retails for around $2,100.
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