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Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:47 am to BBONDS25
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You have zero clue what the requirements on Iran will be. Yet you know it’s a bad deal.
All public information indicates that its bad. Have you heard a single positive aspect of it?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:50 am to JimEverett
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And I hope the invetments do reach $500b, that would mean Iran is fully inside the sphere of western influence and no longer a state sponsor of terrorism.
frick that’s hilarious.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:51 am to Ingeniero
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Yeah Iran is going to initial next to a line that says "we promise to not do a terrorism" then the $300B check clears escrow. Easy peasy
Speaking of naïveté.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:52 am to Bob_Sugar
It’s just like the DNI/Pulte nomination. If the Dems know it will help Trump/MAGA, they will support it. If not they trash it. It’s like the “Coulter Rule”, and applies every time.
Iran is on the back burner. It time to wreck the Dem rigged election machine. That is more dangerous than the severely crippled Iranian Jihadists.
Iran is on the back burner. It time to wreck the Dem rigged election machine. That is more dangerous than the severely crippled Iranian Jihadists.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:52 am to Indefatigable
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Any agreement where Iran wins concessions and the US gets nothing i
Which agreement is that? I haven’t seen what Iran must do to satisfy the requirements. Have you?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:52 am to thejuiceisloose
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Senate Armed Services Committee Chair Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) takes a major whack at Trump’s Iran MOU Wicker says the $300B fund “would make Iran’s payoff under President Obama’s 2015 deal look like a pittance by comparison”
Hey! Is this like when Chuck Schumer used to come out of those classified meetings about Russian Collusion and tell the press that it’s definitely real and it’s bad for Trump?
Kinda feels like the same schtick.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:53 am to Indefatigable
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All public information indicates that its bad. Have you heard a single positive aspect of it?
Iran no longer being a sponsor of terror seems pretty positive.
Iran abandoning its nuclear arms program forever seems pretty positive.
This post was edited on 6/18/26 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:54 am to Indefatigable
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So let me get this straight.
We will go to war with them, accomplish nothing, then give them money and sanctions relief. And you think that giving them money as a reward for closing the Strait of Hormuz and continuing to fire missiles across the region is going to change how they operate for the better?
My goodness that is astounding naivete.
The amount of hyperbole in your resposne shows you have some sort of weird emotional investment in just bitching.
Was it naivete to think that the Marshall Plan would quell radical elements in Western Europe?
Is China acting stupidly by investing billions in ifrastructure to help prop up a militant, war-loving government to gain influence? There are hundreds more examples.
The fact that Iran is considering agreeing to this is proof positive that there is a change in thinking at the top of Iran's political class. Everyone knows money equals influence. $300 billion is Iran's GDP, that type of money buys massive influence and has a huge effect on the people of Iran, who aren;t going to readily support the risk of nationalizing it. Conditions there are not the same as they were in the late 70s.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:54 am to JimEverett
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$300 billion of private investment would basically give the U.S. and its allies major control and influence over Iran
Let's not pretend that they aren't of the same mind as Venezuela (if not worse) in late 2000s and early 2010s when they nationalized the oil industry and "Expropriated" millions in equipment from oil companies.
The private investment is great until they decide they are just going to take it. Unless there is some legitimate safeguard for that possibility, the 300 B could easily go up in smoke.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:55 am to BBONDS25
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Clearly you haven’t. It’s an agreement to try to come to an agreement. 90 percent is stil to be negotiated. Anyone claiming it great or a shite sandwich at this point is a complete moron.
Correct. In its current form, I’m a bit underwhelmed. I hope the finished product is a little more definitive with all vagaries removed.
Our own people would never allow what was necessary to achieve clear victory, so get out with the best possible outcome that you can.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:03 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Let's not pretend that they aren't of the same mind as Venezuela (if not worse) in late 2000s and early 2010s when they nationalized the oil industry and "Expropriated" millions in equipment from oil companies.
The private investment is great until they decide they are just going to take it. Unless there is some legitimate safeguard for that possibility, the 300 B could easily go up in smoke.
No doubt that there is risk. But nationalization usually occurs when things are relatively good, or at least there is sizeable wealth being generated even if it is grossly imbalanced. Iran's economy is in shambles, it would make little sense to nationalize any foreing equity that was generating revenue/jobs/etc. until and unless the country was doing much better than it is doing and has been doing.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
That is a level of delusional spin zone that I didn’t even think was possible
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:06 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
You do understand that a MOU IS NOT a Treaty?
If you need to feel better when someone loses, become a Falcons fan. Being disappointed that the U.S. declawed Iran and its war making capabilities is really somewhat pathetic.
If you need to feel better when someone loses, become a Falcons fan. Being disappointed that the U.S. declawed Iran and its war making capabilities is really somewhat pathetic.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:16 pm to Bob_Sugar
The amount of panican behavior in the wake of this screwup by trump is comical.
He got this one wrong. Why try to spin it otherwise?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:19 pm to JohnnyKilroy
People are really delusional if they think this "deal" no matter the spin the White House puts on it, will erase thousands of years of history in how Iran as both a civilization and country operates.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:25 pm to JimEverett
Isn't this a similar policy we had with China , Pakistan & Afghanistan? The US heavily invested in China and yet they are our biggest threat now. Not saying Iran will be in the same boat but this strategy doesn't always work.
I would be surprised if other middle eastern countries invest in a country controlled by fanaticals of Shia Islam.
But as BBonds requested, I'll wait for the details to come. But so far, it looks like a horrible deal.
I would be surprised if other middle eastern countries invest in a country controlled by fanaticals of Shia Islam.
But as BBonds requested, I'll wait for the details to come. But so far, it looks like a horrible deal.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:25 pm to Bob_Sugar
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The local tards on this board should watch.
The problem: They will not watch it and will just make shite up
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:30 pm to JimEverett
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And I hope the invetments do reach $500b, that would mean Iran is fully inside the sphere of western influence and no longer a state sponsor of terrorism.
Yes or no, should we have just given them the 500B off the bat and never went to war?
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:42 pm to lurking
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It’s shite in the sense none of the previously stated goals for Iran were accomplished.
I can mostly agree with this IF you'll add to the ending of the statement.... "because it requires future administrations to continue to rigorously follow through."
As it stands, EVERY objective CAN be accomplished still. But it'll likely take more than two years. Personally, I'd like to see something more concrete agreed to much sooner than that.
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