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re: Vice President Vance White House Press Briefing: Confirming Media Lies

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Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19805 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:37 am to
Wicker was using false information to inform people like you
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:38 am to
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As a reader of the text is the 300B funding a good idea?


Depends upon where it comes from, in what form, and what stipulations must be met first. As a reader of the text, you should know that.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37837 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:38 am to
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Clearly you haven’t. It’s an agreement to try to come to an agreement. 90 percent is stil to be negotiated. Anyone claiming it great or a shite sandwich at this point is a complete moron.

The fact that it exists at all is evidence that Iran has the upper hand and we will be the ones capitulating.

An agreement to negotiate requiring US concessions, after we have already been negotiating for months, is not a positive for the United States.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15090 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:38 am to
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It must suck to be so fricking dumb.
Nah. Most retards don't even know they are retarded. Ignorant bliss.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
3044 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:39 am to
They been getting shite on since the deal was released so JD is just here to give the cult talking points about how they didn't actually get cucked, and it's really those pesky Democrat's fault for...reasons.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:39 am to
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If the MOU is even close to accurate or even along the same lines of what's being negotiated, there was no reason to ever fight this war. We didn't accomplish anything, but we certainly left Iran in a stronger position than it was before as it relates to outside investment, sanction relief, and the Strait of Hormuz.


Good Lord. It’s basically an LOI. Clutch those pearls harder.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19805 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:39 am to
Who is putting the money up ? When are they putting it up? Who believes that they are putting it up? Who believes Iran will follow through on their promises?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37837 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:40 am to
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Good Lord. It’s basically an LOI. Clutch those pearls harder.

And every substantive term in it is retarded and a failure when compared to our stated goals.

So why would that give anyone any hope whatsoever that any "final" agreement would be any better?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2490 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:40 am to
I can separate being critical of the operation, which I was, with what is the best path going forward at this time. Opening up Iran's country to Arabian and U.S. investment is as good a route as I have heard, but that doesn't mean its the best - are you aware of something better?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:40 am to
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largest state sponsor of terror


Wanna bet that is addressed in the requirements Iran must satisfy to get these loans/investments?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69335 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:41 am to
“Guys it’s a shite deal but it’s just an outline of the shite deal so don’t get so angry!”
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:42 am to
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When the actual document is available to see for ourselves, we don't really need anyone's spin.


Yet you still fall for the spin.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37837 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:42 am to
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Opening up Iran's country to Arabian and U.S. investment is as good a route as I have heard

So let me get this straight.

We will go to war with them, accomplish nothing, then give them money and sanctions relief. And you think that giving them money as a reward for closing the Strait of Hormuz and continuing to fire missiles across the region is going to change how they operate for the better?

My goodness that is astounding naivete.

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23221 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:42 am to
Yeah Iran is going to initial next to a line that says "we promise to not do a terrorism" then the $300B check clears escrow. Easy peasy
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
11150 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:43 am to
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You can read the MOU for yourself. It’s a shite sandwich. Vance can spin it however he wants. Go read the text.


You read the fricking text. We are not paying for anything. Other countries will invest there if Iran obeys the agreement.

frick all of you assholes.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:43 am to
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The fact that it exists at all is evidence that Iran has the upper hand and we will be the ones capitulating.


I love this line of thought. It’s so simplistic. So binary. ANY agreement with Iran means they have the upper hand?


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An agreement to negotiate requiring US concessions, after we have already been negotiating for months, is not a positive for the United States.


You have no clue if this is true. Good Lord.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:45 am to
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And every substantive term in it is retarded and a failure when compared to our stated goals. So why would that give anyone any hope whatsoever that any "final" agreement would be any better?



You clearly won’t. You want it to be a bad deal because OMB. You have zero clue what the requirements on Iran will be. Yet you know it’s a bad deal. Brilliant.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59868 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:45 am to
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Guys it’s a shite deal but it’s just an outline of the shite deal so don’t get so angry


It’s not even an outline. Moron.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37837 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:46 am to
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ANY agreement with Iran means they have the upper hand
Any agreement where Iran wins concessions and the US gets nothing is a bad agreement, yes.

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You have no clue if this is true. Good Lord.

We have already been negotiating for months---unless you're saying the administration has been lying. If we had to make concessions to continue negotiating over the things we have already been negotiating over...that is not a W.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5686 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:46 am to
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U.S. and U.S. allies making private investments in Iran.



You gonna put some money up?

I can't imagine loaning those people money.
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