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re: Verdict has been reached in the Kim Potter trial...UPDATE: Guilty
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:15 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:15 pm to KosmoCramer
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the jury of her peers judged her guilty
Having been on two juries, I can understand. 3 or 4 of the people on with me seemed incapable of rational thought.
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:28 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:Sure
Will any of the “it doesn’t have to be intentional or they don’t have to know they are doing it to be reckless” people address this? Was the judge wrong in her instructions to the jury? How could they conclude she knowingly did this?
The way the law is written is a bit ambiguous, and it's basically semantics in the interpretation.
The intentional part the judge mentioned just means that she consciously and intentionally drew a weapon and fired it, which she did. Meaning, she didn't fumble or drop the gun and then it went off.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:29 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:And yet she was found guilty, and yet even the experts don't all think it's a travesty, and it's a bit more split. Funny how that works.
They needed to prove that she conciously disregarded his safety with her recklessness and culpable negligence. This isn't a strict liability offense. Not many criminal offenses are.
This should have been handled in civil court.
Either you know that and are being obtuse, or you don't know the law.
Either way, the jury of her peers judged her guilty. It's a travesty
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:30 pm to jclem11
quote:This is the type of lashing out you will ONLY see when you realize you watched the entire trial and I watched zero and still easily proved you wrong very quickly.
Shel is an uninformed coward who admitted he did not watch the trial but has very strong opinions.
He embodies everything wrong with our society now.
Uninformed idiots with super strong takes.
He will never appear in this thread to admit he is wrong.
You're mad about that, and thus the melt and name calling. You hate to see it.
Now, the real question is will you admit you're wrong, because you are.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:32 pm to jclem11
quote:I was right and have been proven right. Sorry that angers you to the point of being unable to act like an adult
Shel and LSUFanHouston, both of you should watch this so you can learn some more about MN law.
You are both wrong with your takes and refuse to admit it.
Come eat your crow and take your L, cowards
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:33 pm to shel311
quote:
This is the type of lashing out you will ONLY see when you realize you watched the entire trial and I watched zero and still easily proved you wrong very quickly.
You're mad about that, and thus the melt and name calling. You hate to see it.
Now, the real question is will you admit you're wrong, because you are.
You are only right in your mind. You have proved nothing dude.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:36 pm to jclem11
quote:I certainly did.
You are only right in your mind. You have proved nothing dude
Again, You choose to ignore things that prove you wrong and just keep yelling louder and louder and flipping out.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:55 pm to jclem11
quote:
requires "proof of a conscious or intentional act..
quote:
Or
It wasn’t intentional.
It WAS conscious.
It took the jury almost four days to deliberate.
I personally believe the standard in the law is too low. In many states a higher standard is required and if that were the case she would be free.
Every case is different. Every state is different.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 8:58 pm to jclem11
quote:
both of you should watch this so you can learn some more about MN law.
This is one guy opinion.
People disagree on what the jaw means. That’s why we have a court system. Clearly there are other attorneys and others that disagree with this man.
Unless he write the law in question, his opinion means no more or no less than anyone else.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:27 pm to LSUFanHouston
Explain did she just shoot one person? If so how is she guilty of 2 separate counts?
Also didn’t the judge basically tell the jury vote guilty or answer to me?
Lastly, wasn’t it improper to reread the jury instructions in the manner she did?
I have not paid a lick of attention to this trial just seeing some stuff friends text me or on socials like this site.
Also didn’t the judge basically tell the jury vote guilty or answer to me?
Lastly, wasn’t it improper to reread the jury instructions in the manner she did?
I have not paid a lick of attention to this trial just seeing some stuff friends text me or on socials like this site.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 10:47 pm to sms151t
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Explain did she just shoot one person? If so how is she guilty of 2 separate counts?
MN law allows a conviction on multiple degrees with only the highest being sentenced. The Chauvin case had this as well.
Posted on 12/23/21 at 11:28 pm to Jcpau
quote:I’m with you. Scratching my head on how she can be charged with killing the same guy TWICE.
How is she guilty of 1st and 2nd degree manslaughter?
I get it when defendants face multiple charges in a trial, such as an attempted murder charge for every bullet they fire onto a crowd, or multiple lesser charges like resisting arrest, suspended license, drug possession, etc. on top of a murder charge. I get the intent to stack it all up on case one charge loses.
But here, there is just one person that was killed. How many times can they charge her with manslaughter?
ETA: previous poster answered my question. MN’s laws are stoopid.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 12/24/21 at 7:36 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Her own testimony did her in and made her not credible in the jury's eyes. She said she was defending her partner who had the look of fear on his face but the body camera showed she couldn't see his face and he released Daunte before she shot him.
People that have no idea of what they are talking about should usually keep their cock holster shut…..when you hear taser, taser, taser it is in your best interest not to be in contact with the suspect…..fricking stupid!
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:55 am to ABearsFanNMS
I’m curious to see how this verdict impacts the NOPD. They have lost over 240 officers since Jan 1, 2020.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 11:48 am to MrLSU
Bump - Sentenced to 16 months. What are everyone's thoughts on that?
Posted on 2/18/22 at 11:58 am to shel311
Congrats. Huge win for you people.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 12:40 pm to roadGator
I wonder if Alec Baldwin will get that for his accident.
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