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re: Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran

Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:28 am to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:28 am to
Well, it is in our hemisphere so we ought to be able to handle it.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21490 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:28 am to
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Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran
Oh this clown shite. Yeah, of course it is. Terror, or something. lol:


Google that shite baw! It's all there for you to discover and learn new things!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:29 am to
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Again, how do you it’s NOT true?


Fentanyl to middle east terrorists. I know people believe a fat man flies around the world in one night in a sleigh, but these fairy tales are even harder to believe.

Its regime change based on a personal beef.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2835 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:35 am to
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U.S. officials now assert that under Nicolás Maduro, the country has become a primary hub for terror organizations, drug trafficking networks, and hostile foreign powers.... Hezbollah’s integration into Venezuela began as early as 2001.


SINCE "2001"? And just NOW the US is reacting??

So Iran (and Hezbollah?? ) have snuck into the Caribbean and Venezuela from right under our nose and run drug network for 24 years? Can't Intel's high tech surveillance cameras spot a fly land on a dog turd in DC from 5 miles in the sky.

Utter nonsense, not believable, not credible. We have now entered the bad bullsh*t phase of DS operations.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:37 am to
Yeah, I left that out. My overall point was that Venezuelan oil is a drop for them. They get the overwhelming bulk much closer to home.....and for a lot of it, we underwrite the transport.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
419 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:40 am to
Earlier than expected. I figured it would be at least a year before the Iranian boogie man was resurrected.

I would also imagine that they are about to be about a month or two away from having nuclear weapons again.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:42 am to
Wrong on Gaudio, he does have an outstanding warrant from Maduro. He fled in 2023 and is in Miami.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10393 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:43 am to
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I think all this Venezuala hoopla is more about Russia and China that Venezuala, they're big buddies with them, nothing China would liker more than to get more of there people in our neighborhood


Of course, there is more going on than just drugs. The problem is conservatives demand to be told everything. If Trump doesn't explain every military mission and goal in explicit detail so that the enemy knows what we are doing, then that means Trump is just working for the deep state to them.

Muslim terrorists murdering Americans - well, that just the deep state making you think muslims want you dead. We can't defend our homeland from people who want to kill us. That's exactly what the deep state wants you to do. Muslims are just peaceful misunderstood people. The deep state just convinced you they are boogeymen. Their constant rape and violence is just an illusion. You suckers are just falling for the deep state if you don't want muslim terrorists in our hemisphere.

Yes, reports of hezbollah being in Venezuela go back decades, but that's just what they want you to believe, man. Conservatives are so conditioned to see "fake" wars that they will ignore an actual war even when it is on their doorstep.

It's so weird. In domestic policy, conservatives are chicken littles who think the sky is falling every day. Every new situation is the most important thing ever. They see problems where they don't exist.

But in foreign policy, no actual threat is considered real. They'll ignore real problems and pretend nothing is worthy of action. Dead citizens and expanding Chinese power? Not important. Did you hear what Trump said about Reiner, though?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67564 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:45 am to
At the very least, I’d take all of that with big grain of salt. Is Maduro also hoarding yellowcake uranium?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8934 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:50 am to
Thx. You're better informed on this than I am. Much appreciated.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:08 am to
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regime change based on a personal beef.



It’s just that black and white, huh? You had zero sources. Zero information. What security clearance with the government do you have? How much do you know that you didn’t get off of the Internet? Who was the reporter you got your info from?

For something so easy and black and white, there MUST be a paper trail because how else did you figure this all out?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:11 am to
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It’s just that black and white, huh?


1) Veneuzuela is a transit nation for cocaine
2) Mixico mfgs and distributes fentanyl
3) US citizens import Fentanyl from Mexico

So yes, youre being lied to and dont seem to care to institute another regime change.

Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
419 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:19 am to
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3) US citizens import Fentanyl from Mexico
You forgot to mention that fentanyl is now a WMD. By default, I think that means the U.S. has to invade somebody now. My guess is Netanyahu has dibs on naming the first choice.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:21 am to
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My overall point was that Venezuelan oil is a drop for them.


Right now, yes. They don't have the footprint they have in SA for tourism and I doubt they give two shits about any terrorist camps that may be there. They want an alternative to Russia, Venezuela is a good candidate.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:33 am to
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You forgot to mention that fentanyl is now a WMD.


Trump probably thinks they're burying it in the Syrian desert hence why he's cozying up to Terrorists there.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:59 am to
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The problem is conservatives demand to be told everything.


Gee — after decades of perpetual war and the repeated hackneyed lies used to justify them — I wonder why?

Sowing global chaos — the more violent the better — has been the standing American foreign policy directive of the permanent bipartisan reigning junta in Washington D.C. since at least the end of the Cold War.

The following headline — from the Syrian civil war a decade ago — perfectly sums up this insanity:


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:04 am to
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How much do you know that you didn’t get off of the Internet?


Who is your source? Colin Powell?



Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9787 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:04 am to
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China has penetrated the western hemisphere?


What does this mean?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35600 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:16 am to
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This is one war that has some justification.


Is it though?

After being blatantly lied to about things like 9/11 and Iraq WMDs, I stay permanent skeptical about whatever the War Machine is telling me.

Still though, as you said, I'd rather be fighting against Chini and Islam influence on our own western hemisphere than on the other side of the planet.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:19 am to
Like I said before, Venezuelan oil is tricky in terms of processing. China right now is maybe getting 850,000 barrels per day out of a need of 16 million so around 4-5 percent. The refining is tricky because it is so heavy and full of sulfur. It has to be made sweeter.

Fighting with the Venezuelans over this is overall meaningless.unless there is some unknown ulterior reason that is not coming out.
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