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re: Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran

Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:37 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:37 am to
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Does Maduro have an Air Force or Navy capable of projecting any power?

Does he grow any appreciable amounts of coca?

Our policies in terms of sanctions over the years have helped to contribute to the migrant problem, of that there really is little debate.


I agree with all of that. So, what do you think the real reason is for the billions of dollars and constant lies we are expending to remove Maduro?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43967 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:55 am to
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They’re sitting on the biggest oil reserves in the world, are located in our sphere of influence


Translation: They have oil and it’s ours.

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being used by China and radical Islam as a host to act against our interests


Translation: Here’s the bullshite reason we’ve made up.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:58 am to
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Audioman213
It’s never gonna end


If Marco Rubio comes out and says Maduro is attempting to enrich uranium, we will know the sh*+ is about to hit the fan.



Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23620 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:00 am to
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Translation: Here’s the bullshite reason we’ve made up.


Translation: no matter what Republican is elected, we end up with John McCain.

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21490 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:11 am to
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I don't give a frick what neocons say to scare monger me into backing yet another overseas conflict

Not our problem


Your reading comprehension sucks! Lol
"Overseas" is a misleading term in this context. This is our hemisphere, not some far away desert across an ocean.

I've been saying these same things since this Venezuela action started and advising folks to research Margarita Island. There are many reasons we should be concerned about Venezuela, all are good reasons.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:11 am to
I'm not really sure. Issues with Iran are b.s. in terms of a threat. We don't need their oil. We know the drug angle is b.s..
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8934 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:19 am to
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I'm not really sure. Issues with Iran are b.s. in terms of a threat. We don't need their oil. We know the drug angle is b.s..


Agreed. Maybe it's the MIC creating its own demand?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17947 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:33 am to
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no they dont.


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63244 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:41 am to
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Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran

Oh this clown shite. Yeah, of course it is. Terror, or something. lol:
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:43 am to
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Translation: Here’s the bullshite reason we’ve made up.

How does a hemispheric defense strategy work once China has penetrated the western hemisphere?
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
1744 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:45 am to
Sounds like it’s time for a kaboom
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:57 am to
What? You mean like a testing ground sort of to test out some new systems? There's a lot of conspiracy foolishness vis a vis the MIC which is just that.

We do have a lot of metal and hardware out there though and it's not about Margaritas Island where we could send in 2-3 destroyers and a battalion of Marines to handle if we really saw it as any real threat.

The fact that Maduro steals his own elections is not enough of a reason to put military hardware there either. Remember, thes Venezuelans initially enthusiastically voted in Chavez 25+ years ago and despite Gaudio maybe winning his election 5 or 6 years ago, I don't think Gaudio is in prison.

What gets me is that at least outwardly, no one has approached Maduro with a deal deal. Maybe we have and he was too stupid to take it?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:04 am to
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ChiComs maybe were getting 4% of their daily needs from Venezuela at the most. The other 96% was coming via SA and Iraq with Iran throwing in some. ChiComs could live without Venezuelan oil.


I don't know where you're getting your info but half their oil comes from Russia and they'd like alternatives to that. That's why they're all over SA.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:08 am to
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This is one war that has some justification.



Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8934 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:12 am to
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What? You mean like a testing ground sort of to test out some new systems? 


No, I meant the constant need to justify how much we spend on our military.

As for a deal, apparently we are unwilling to waive the pending drug charges against him. He probably prefers his days/weeks free in Venezuela rather than being incarcerated in an American prison.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94790 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:17 am to
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This is the worst war propaganda ever.


Again, how do you it’s NOT true? Or there some of levels of authenticity? Because YOU don’t want to believe it?

What if it IS true? What would the move here be?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
14954 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:17 am to
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Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran


I'm glad to see a thread on this.

I've been trying to point it out to SFP for a couple of weeks... he denies any linkage of narco and islamic terrorism.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36003 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:25 am to
I think the dollars we spend on the military is something of a canard. We spend less now in terms of GDP then we did in the 80's .

In terms of drug charges against Maduro, we could make those go away overnight. He's a very small player in the game. Naboa in Ecuador plays a bigger role. He's not gonna be touched as he is a friend of Rubio and really part of the S.FL elite.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21490 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:26 am to
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Do you think Maduro being in power in Venezuela is actually a threat to the security of the United States?



Do you think allowing China a greater presence in our hemisphere is a threat?
Do you believe allowing Islamic terrorists to live and train in our own hemisphere is a threat?
Do you think having an international drug smuggling ring there is a threat?

Not to mention, remember when Chavez seized American owned oil production?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:27 am to
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Venezuela: a Strategic Stronghold for Hezbollah and Iran


Oh this clown shite. Yeah, of course it is. Terror, or something. lol:


Its truly amazing to watch in real time.

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