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re: Vance's solution to the rising cost of child care...

Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20088 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
Teachers union will vote for Trump if this means more working hours and no summers off!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:41 pm to
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the problem is a shortage of adults willing to take care of other people kids for minimum wage..


Correct. That’s driven at least in part by inflation which was driven by government spending.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:42 pm to
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Do you not think that we as parents we don't try to get help from our children's grandparents? Do you not think we thought of that? As a matter of fact during the summers, this is exactly what we did. Even after doing that, child care is still unaffordable.


You realize the democrats you vote for is the reason for inflation right now, right?

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15540 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:43 pm to
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I'm pretty sure the check I wrote every week to the daycare says otherwise.

Sounds like you're doing the right thing. Keep paying for your goods and services like a big boy. Very proud of ya.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9496 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:43 pm to
That's the way it used to be.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:48 pm to
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I guess every school district is breaking the law. So triggered.
You sound like you need a tampon.
Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1833 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:50 pm to
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What are they doing with their children today? I have no doubt these people exist, I just think the number is exceedingly small. When most people claim they “can’t afford it” and are already paying for it, they mean they’d like more disposable income. We already subsidize the lives of people in poverty (and many way above it).


They're living in poverty on welfare and/ or going into debt. Their children would have a better QoL with free market solutions allowing for a greater quantity and quality of options. Less regulation is good for pretty much everything the government has screwed up, and childcare is no exception. Subsidizing childcare, juts like everything else, when there are easier and better solutions is absolutely the wrong way to go.

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How many people we talking about here? Are lots of kids age 5 and under just left on street corners while parents work?


I haven't authored a study on this personally, but others have. They are not hard to find. The families in poverty unable to afford childcare are living shitty lives, even if the kids aren't on street corners. Helping families improve their QoL with free market solutions should help prevent those kids from becoming car jackers when they're 10 and raising the next generation of 10 year old car jackers.

I think I'm missing something here. Are you against lowering regulations to lower the cost of child care and increase completion? If so, why?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:51 pm to
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The risks/costs are so high
Lawyers makin' bank!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63034 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Even after doing that, child care is still unaffordable


You just don’t value the care of your child high enough.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:55 pm to
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And every school district in MN agrees with me because it isn't happening.
The only reason it isn’t happening is because the schools themselves have said, “frick your stupid law Tampon Tim” or the fact that they know the tampon dispensers in boys bathrooms will be destroyed like in other states.

But for you to deny that he signed it into law is just retarded, but not surprising since you are a fricking retard.

I feel sorry for your kids and hope your boys grow up to be real men unlike their father.

This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:59 pm to
Can you link this? I believe you, I just can't find the source information. It seems like there are a lot of different ways you can become qualified though. Doesn't look like 6 years of education to me, but I'm trying to see what this is actually a requirement for.
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:02 pm to
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How about a tax deduction for a non working spouse to create incentives for a parent to stay home and watch the kids until a certain age?


Another good idea, unlike what Vance proposes even if you all want to make excuses for him.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8020 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:03 pm to
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality


I know. All the cool kids avoid press conferences and answering any questions on future.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Another good idea, unlike what Vance proposes even if you all want to make excuses for him.
How about you get off this website and stop spewing your Marxist propaganda and go make some money so YOU can pay to raise your little Communist shite stain kids.

Unless you’re a paid ActBlue shill and you are getting paid by the post. Carry on shill.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15712 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:09 pm to
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality


Why?

My grandparents served as child care for four grandchildren spanning over two decades and they did so with two of those 4 grandchildren while owning a business.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Do you not think that we as parents we don't try to get help from our children's grandparents?
It sure as hell isn't evident in your earlier post. But what makes you think the Vance message targets you, rather than your in-laws, parents, friends or relatives?

Meanwhile, as you're telling us what is not feasible, what won't work, what is not possible, Kamala proposes that my family, which has found solutions, pay for yours and your inability to find a resolution.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:12 pm to
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality



My in-laws help with the kids all the time. How is this out of touch with reality?
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:13 pm to
I feel sorry for your kids who has a father that is so gullible to believe that tampons are being put in boys bathrooms.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8608 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Another good idea, unlike what Vance proposes even if you all want to make excuses for him.



Nobody has to make excuses for him. It's common sense. Why should my tax dollars go to taking care of your kids? My wife and I had to make that decision 25 years ago. Childcare was costing us more than we could afford so she quit her job and stayed home with our first, second and third child. And we did it on a $50,000.00 income. Kids are grown, so she's back to working again.
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