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re: Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard to enforce gun control.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:16 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:16 pm to TrueTiger
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They don't have to follow illegal orders.
They're oath bound not to.
This will never happen. I wonder why they're trying to force the issue... Hmm.
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:29 pm to TrueTiger
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Ive had this conversation with many friends.
If the confiscators come, they all agree that they have no choice but to go out in a blaze of glory.
Cold.
Dead.
Hands.
Exactly...because it starts there and when other freedoms are usurped all you have left is a life not worth living.
As the slogan says "Live free or die!"
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:53 pm to Jjdoc
Want to know why this dumbass, State Rep. Donald McEachin, is such a moron?
He's black.
What was one of the most important landmark moments of the Civil Rights movement?
President Kennedy federalizing the Alabama National Guard when Gov. George Wallace called them out to prevent black students from registering at the University of Alabama.
The fact that a black state legislator doesn't even know this is downright comical.
He's black.
What was one of the most important landmark moments of the Civil Rights movement?
President Kennedy federalizing the Alabama National Guard when Gov. George Wallace called them out to prevent black students from registering at the University of Alabama.
The fact that a black state legislator doesn't even know this is downright comical.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:40 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Maybe he should have them enforce drug laws too.
Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard to enforce gun control.
Yeah, that'll work.
Round up illegal aliens while they are out there.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:15 pm to SOCAL TIGER
I can assure you sir, that all Virginians outside of Fairfax, Loudon and Richmond counties are true Americans.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:40 pm to geaux88
There is no Richmond county. Richmond is in Henrico county.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:46 pm to Jeff Boomhauer
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but very few will actually take to the street to start killing those loyal to the government.
How many body bags would have to be filled before cooler heads take charge?
Posted on 12/15/19 at 3:32 am to WhiteMandingo
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The national guard swears an oath to the United States not an individual state. Until the US gov says its cool they wont be doing shite.
That would be the Reserves. The Guard works for the President and the Governor.
Posted on 12/15/19 at 8:09 am to LsuNav
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That would be the Reserves. The Guard works for the President and the Governor.
Oath of enlistment at MEPS is the same. They do serve the governor but “support and defend the Constitution” is line one.
Posted on 12/16/19 at 9:45 pm to Flats
Interesting turn of events if true.
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The Governor of Virginia has allegedly ordered a small cadre of staffers to begin the process for determining how to cut off electricity, telephones/ FAXES, Cellular phones AND DATA, as well as the Internet, in areas where he plans to send Virginia National Guard Troops to forcibly seize guns when the Democrat legislature convenes in January!
The order was allegedly given to a very small and trusted group of staffers, some of whom it turns out, do not agree (at all) with this idea.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:18 am to Tesla
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Now let’s really keep it real. The NG aviation units regularly score higher eval and readiness than active duty units due to funding and soldier to aircraft ratios.
Probably because the NG aviation units are practically the active duty aviation units. The Air National Guard is the same way. Their pilots are top notch.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:22 am to tommy2tone1999
Cutting off utilities to about 80% of the state? This will go over well.
Northam graduated from VMI but he doesn’t appear to have learned much from there.
Northam graduated from VMI but he doesn’t appear to have learned much from there.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:25 am to tommy2tone1999
He surely isn't that dumb. That would be worse than trying to take guns.
You are talking a planned extermination of elderly people who have to have utilities or die.
You are talking a planned extermination of elderly people who have to have utilities or die.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:28 am to Jjdoc
You would hope he isn’t that dumb.
I don’t think he gives a shite because state term limits mean he can’t run for Governor again in a few years.
I don’t think he gives a shite because state term limits mean he can’t run for Governor again in a few years.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:34 am to WhiteMandingo
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The national guard swears an oath to the United States not an individual state
They swear to uphold the Constitution
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:43 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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They swear allegiance to both the United States and their individual State. The governor certainly has the authority to mobilize them without federal approval. It happens all the time.
Yes, but aren't they required to disobey orders that would go against what is right, like the Constitution. Seems like in a scenario such as this where there is a direct contradiction between the feds, the Constitution, and the state law, that soldiers would be bound to upholding the Constitution.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:48 am to RollTide1987
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Most would do as they’re told. That’s what soldiers do.
Soldiers don't have to obey an unlawful order. Any order that violates constitutional rights of citizens is an unlawful order.
Could they not actually be charged with a crime if they did such a thing as this. As a soldier is your duty not more to following your Constitution and protecting citizens, than it is to following some orders. Haven't some Nazi soldiers and many others been charged with war crimes of which they followed their orders. Simply doing something because you were ordered to do it doesn't make it not criminal.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:51 am to Jjdoc
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Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard
Uh, yeah the VA Governor cannot "nationalize" the National Guard... He can activate them under State Active Duty but he cannot "nationalize" them...
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:51 am to Steadyhands
I believe the US soldiers at My Lai got charged but only Lt Calley got convicted.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:53 am to Steadyhands
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required to disobey orders
Title 32 Oath of Enlistment:
“I do hereby acknowledge to have voluntarily enlisted this __ day of ____, 19_, in the ______ National Guard of the State of ______ for a period of __ year(s) under the conditions prescribed by law, unless sooner discharged by proper authority.
“I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.”
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