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re: Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard to enforce gun control.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:42 pm to Flats
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:42 pm to Flats
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Desert Storm was the impetus for the turnaround. There were units called up that never made it out of their mobilization station because they were so jacked up. After that a RA training cadre was assigned to each unit at the Bn level (at least for the guys I talked to) consisting of a field grade officer and a few SNCOs and they provided expertise and oversight. They regularly get sent through JRTC, JOTC when it was operational, NTC, etc. It was deserved in the past, but calling them weekend warriors and claiming they're not professionals these days is bullshite.
Fantastic synopsis, sir.
I'll also take this as another opportunity to apologize for my rant towards you earlier in this thread because I shot from the hip and didn't read the whole thread and didn't understand the context in which you were posting. I've not deleted them because I admit when I am wrong.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 1:44 pm
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:52 pm to Eli Goldfinger
These measures are likely unconstitutional at a state level, we have our own second amendment.
I expect a hard push to enforce them though, before the courts get involved.
I expect a hard push to enforce them though, before the courts get involved.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:55 pm to Jjdoc
quote:No where in your link does it say the governor is considering nationalizing the National Guard.
Va Gov considers nationalizing the National Guard
It says a Virginia state representative speculates the governor "may" have to nationalize the NG.
You are fake news........again.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 1:56 pm to moneyg
quote:
How is this legal?
?
This is the least meaningful question in the thread.
When the government has decided it is within their discretion to remove constitutional rights by force, the question of legality is meaningless.
Dude, you're a dumbass. 5he Virginia Governor can TRY to trample on the Constitution all he wants, but the Courts will have the final say.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:02 pm to LSURussian
quote:
No where in your link does it say the governor is considering nationalizing the National Guard.
And you even giving this word "nationalize" credence shows your absolute ignorance.
A Governor does NOT HAVE THE ABILITY to "Nationalize" the National Guard. That is reserved for the Commander in Chief.
Try reading the whole thread.
As I said earlier, if shitstain governor blackface snivelcrat "MOBILIZES" the National Guard, then the President can simply "NATIONALIZE" them and forbid them to break the law and the Constitution.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:03 pm to Lima Whiskey
This Reddit post lists the pending legislation.
LINK /
It’s somewhat staggering.
It records 28 bills.
LINK /
It’s somewhat staggering.
It records 28 bills.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:31 pm to geaux88
quote:HELL NO!!
Try reading the whole thread.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:39 pm to geaux88
No worries.
ETA And what he told me was just Army NG; I'm not sure if the Air Guard had the same issues or had to institute fixes. I'm also not sure about Reserve units and whether they had similar issues.
I hadn't realized prior to that that the NG is combat arms heavy as opposed to Army Reserve units. I think most it not all Army Reserve units are support functions, so if Big Green wants to plus up with shooters turn to the NG.
ETA And what he told me was just Army NG; I'm not sure if the Air Guard had the same issues or had to institute fixes. I'm also not sure about Reserve units and whether they had similar issues.
I hadn't realized prior to that that the NG is combat arms heavy as opposed to Army Reserve units. I think most it not all Army Reserve units are support functions, so if Big Green wants to plus up with shooters turn to the NG.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:43 pm to Jjdoc
You can tell that people who propose this stupidity have no idea how actual military and police tactics work.
All a police department would have to do would be to set up a cordon around the local armory and motor pool the second the Governor attempted that and none of the guardsmen would be able to report for weapons draw.
Who would the Governor call in to stop it...the same NATIONAL GUARD who would be prevented from reaching their own armory or vehicles?
All a police department would have to do would be to set up a cordon around the local armory and motor pool the second the Governor attempted that and none of the guardsmen would be able to report for weapons draw.
Who would the Governor call in to stop it...the same NATIONAL GUARD who would be prevented from reaching their own armory or vehicles?
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:47 pm to Jjdoc
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Gov. Ralph Northam “may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law” if local authorities refuse to do so themselves.
Too bad for these pansy Democrats it doesn't work that way.
Only the President can call the Guard to an active Component.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:51 pm to Lima Whiskey
Did you see what palmetto state armory is doing?
I’m going to order some of those lowers.
I’m going to order some of those lowers.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:05 pm to Jjdoc
Seems there was a government over 200 years ago that tried this shite. How did that work out for them? 
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:07 pm to roadGator
What are they doing?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:15 pm to KCT
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Dude, you're a dumbass. 5he Virginia Governor can TRY to trample on the Constitution all he wants, but the PEOPLE will have the final say.
FIFY
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:17 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Paying homage to the Commonwealth of Virginia, Palmetto State Armory’s limited edition "Virginia-15” AR-15 lower commemorates our brothers and sisters in Virginia and across the United States civilly advocating for the fundamental rights of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. $10 from the sale of each of these receivers will be donated to the non-profit Virginia Citizens Defense League to support their efforts to defend the Second Amendment and constitutional rights.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:21 pm to WhiteMandingo
You might want to look at the oath of enlistment for the national guard. You will obey the orders of the President and the governor.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:22 pm to Jjdoc
Amazing how these laws MUST BE ENFORCED according to Democrats
But immigration laws are cool to ignore
But immigration laws are cool to ignore
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:49 pm to roadGator
I really like it.
I don’t plan on building an AR anytime soon, but I’m going to buy one of the lowers anyway.
I don’t plan on building an AR anytime soon, but I’m going to buy one of the lowers anyway.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:58 pm to Jjdoc
I find it hard to believe the national guard would comply.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:50 pm to Jjdoc
There is a reason why Virginia sounds some much like Vagina!!!
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