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re: US is pretty much the only first world country without paid sick leave

Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:06 pm to
Why don't you move to France then lazy arse
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4575 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Also the only one w/o paid maternity leave and the one with by far the shortest vacation days.

Corporatism at its finest, and it's only getting worse as the oligarchy continues to chip away at the few benefits the American worker actually does have. Shameful.


Christ is this ever misinformed. The government does not mandate these things. So while your precious big government is busy letting you down, those corporations you so despise have been helpful enough to offer things like maternity leave and paid sick leave. I am sorry you have not yet progressed to the point in your life where your skills would demand such an offer from a company of your choosing.

Sincerely,

Go frick yourself.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:53 pm to
I had paid sick leave before I retired. My wife currently has paid sick leave.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13555 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 2:29 pm to
ben, you should get a job with paid sick leave. Most people working in the corporate offices of reputable companies have this benefit. You may need to re-evaluate your career choices if you lack this benefit.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:01 pm to
You mean government forced sick leave.

I have it. Good companies do.

Shitty ones don't.

Have enough skill to not work for a shitty one.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82347 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:29 pm to
quote:


Have enough skill to not work for a shitty one.



But it's so much easier to play the victim.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:31 pm to
i get 20 paid sick days a year, 5 personal days, 3 "floating holidays", and 4 weeks vacation.

women have paid maternity leave and men actually get 2 weeks paid paternity leave
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:31 pm to
We, including the poor, have it better here than any other country. We, including the poor, have it better in this country now than any of previous generations.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:33 pm to
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benhamin5555

This is going well don't you think?
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:39 pm to
You need to find a better place to work.

I give my employees 4 weeks of vacation and a week worth of sick days each year. I also give them 11 paid holidays each year.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41052 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:41 pm to
I'm guessing the OP meant "government-provided" or "government-mandated" sick leave.

And the 4 pages of talking about how we are all great and people who don't have sick leave should just find a new job... got it.

But here is the thing. There ARE a lot of people in this country who work jobs where, if you don't show up, you don't get paid. And it's not just the low-skills either. Anyone who is self-employed probably fits in this statement as well. If a one-man a/c repairman shop, the guy can't go to work today, he's not getting paid either.

That having been said, if someone is afraid to go to the doc because they don't want to miss a day of work, and it turns out they have Ebola and infect everyone else around them (including all of you that have sick days) then we are all going to be screwed.

I don't think that's a problem with Ebola, in that it's not an airborne disease, and you generally have to come in contact with body fluids to get it. But... if god forbid something like SARS hit here, we could be in for a big issue.
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

If a one-man a/c repairman shop, the guy can't go to work today, he's not getting paid either.



he should have saved his money to account for sick days instead of buying the iphone 6
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41052 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

he should have saved his money to account for sick days instead of buying the iphone 6


Nice attack there, ok... point still being... if sick people go to work, we all suffer.
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Nice attack


not meant as an attack.

To ME poverty is a mindset, either you accept being in poverty or you don't and you get out. Poverty is all about choices, some are not in the individuals control sometimes like parents making poor decisions and the children suffering for it. But there is always a way out, if you are willing to look and sacrifice. Unfortunately today its easier to sit idle instead of sacrificing.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63411 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:34 pm to
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WTF are you talking about? Every company and governmental employer I know has paid sick leave.


He means not mandated by the government.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59254 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

But here is the thing. There ARE a lot of people in this country who work jobs where, if you don't show up, you don't get paid. And it's not just the low-skills either. Anyone who is self-employed probably fits in this statement as well. If a one-man a/c repairman shop, the guy can't go to work today, he's not getting paid either.


There's a tradeoff with every decision. If someone goes to work for themselves that's part of the tradeoff they get for being their own boss and setting their own hours. IIRC, Russian is self-employed and I think SFP may be as well. I don't see them here bitching about not having paid sick days mandated to them by the All-Seeing Mommy State.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76468 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:57 pm to
US gives out more foreign aid than anyone else.

Maybe we just can't afford it?

Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Those with legitimate jobs usually have sick leave


This.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108973 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:37 pm to
I have paid sick leave and if it is extended down time I have short term disability insurance.
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