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re: US is pretty much the only first world country without paid sick leave

Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:23 pm to
Asking about how sick leave is handled in the company doesn't look bad if it is during going over the benefits package the job offers. If i see the benefits package and sick leave isn't mentioned I would ask about it. I do see how someone could assume it should be and fail to ask about it though. I just wouldn't put the blame on the company for me not asking.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:23 pm to
Somebody has to support the welfare queens.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:26 pm to
Isn't it nice that US companies have a choice of whether or not to offer sick leave?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:26 pm to
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How old are you? This started back in the 90's where I live. When you got your first job, you would get 2 weeks of vacation and 5 days sick leave.

Guess what? People were calling in sick when they could work, so they changed the policy: 3 weeks vacation/sick leave combined. If you need longer, have to go on short-term disability (basically sick leave paid at a lower rate). You can also buy AFLAC insurance or something similar.

I don't see the problem?

I am ok with the PTO model but typically they call it PTO and say they don't offer sick time. this place didn't. 10 days of vacation, and no sick time.

The place was just run really poorly that is all i can say.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:27 pm to
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10 days of vacation, and no sick time.


Holy shite!
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I just wouldn't put the blame on the company for me not asking.

well the thing I would put on the company is endangering their workforce and customers with a backwards policy such as this.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:31 pm to
I agree it is a stupid policy to have especially if you have labor that is valuable. It just proves my point though that liberals wanting gov. mandated sick leave hate the free market. This company could be taken down by a better managed company. If the gov forced them into offering sick leave the crap company would be protected from themselves.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Isn't it nice that US companies have a choice of whether or not to offer sick leave

Libs don't like choice...unless it involves killing unborn babies.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:36 pm to
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People who work at McDonalds etc will not be willing to lose a days worth of pay to go to the hospital.


Do you know the work ethic of those who work at McDonald's?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Yeah, some will abuse it


LINK

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Significant numbers of employees around the world admit to calling in sick to work when they were not actually sick. China led all surveyed regions with 71 percent of employees admitting to calling in sick when they were not actually sick, while France had the smallest number with only 16 percent. Other countries polled included India with 62 percent, Australia with 58 percent, Canada with 52 percent, the U.S. with 52 percent, the U.K. with 43 percent, and Mexico with 38 percent.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:48 pm to
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3 weeks vacation/sick leave combined


I have been under this model and the paid sick leave model. Frankly I like the 3 weeks combined model (let's see if I change my mind when I get really sick) as I felt like I was "wasting" sick leave by not taking it.

As long as you can roll your time over (and lots of places don't allow that) I am cool with a pooled bank.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:49 pm to
I have 1 week paid sick leave, 6 months short term disability paid @ 100% salary & long term disability kicks in after 6 months paid @ 65%. I also have 4 weeks paid vacation.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:52 pm to
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I have been under this model and the paid sick leave model. Frankly I like the 3 weeks combined model (let's see if I change my mind when I get really sick) as I felt like I was "wasting" sick leave by not taking it.

As long as you can roll your time over (and lots of places don't allow that) I am cool with a pooled bank.

i get 18 days plus unlimited sick time. I haven't taken a sick day in almost 2 years.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:58 pm to
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US is pretty much the only first world country without paid sick leave



You must hate your job if you have to worry about such trivial things as sick leave. Also, if you were valuable enough to your company they would bend over backwards in your time of need. It's extremely expensive replacing employees in corporate America.
Posted by ForeverLurking
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:03 pm to
I think the bigger issue isn't sick leave, it's unpaid maternity leave
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:03 pm to
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I have 1 week paid sick leave, 6 months short term disability paid @ 100% salary & long term disability kicks in after 6 months paid @ 65%. I also have 4 weeks paid vacation.


I have this too except 3 weeks of vacation. But no one is counting. I travel and work long hours so it's kind of a quid pro quo.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:03 pm to
The OP may want to change that thread title to "without government-mandated paid sick leave." I frankly don't even know if that would be a true statement, but the subject title wrongly suggests that no one in the US has paid sick leave when millions do.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:05 pm to
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it's unpaid maternity leave



It's my impression that some companies offer 12 weeks. My wife's company did. I know most don't though.
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