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re: U.S. House just voted and passed bill on major new gun control laws; with eight Republican
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:49 am to The Melt
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:49 am to The Melt
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So no person-to-person sales? How would they know?
They would not know until the gun's serial number was traced for any number of reasons. You could be stopped for a traffic violation with your handgun in the car or on your person. Then the number is traced and found to be registered to your son-in-law, who lives in another state. Yeah, you bought it from him in a private sale, but didn't get ownership transferred through a FFL dealer. You are then, both, in violation of current federal law. You borrowed the gun from your out of state son-in-law. It is registered to him, in another state, but it is in your possession. Both of you are now in violation of current federal law. Date of purchase of the gun, which is on file in the records, would prove that you did not follow existing law when you and your son-in-law made a friendly, innocent family purchase and sale. Now...if you and your son-in-law both live in the same state, current federal law would make this purchase and sale completely legal, provided that the buyer/borrower was not precluded from having a handgun for any number of reasons. How many of us have bought and sold in either or both of these scenarios? This law sucks.
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:49 am to Ailsa
Does it require JuJuan to conduct a background check on Devonta when the former sells the latter a stolen handgun from the back of an '89 Caprice?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:49 am to FlySaint
quote:
what’s to stop a transfer between private individuals?
Nothing at the moment. They are working their way to it though.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:51 am to Seeker
Aren't those the same guns you lost in that boating accident where they all melted and went to to bottom of the Gulf?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:51 am to TheHarahanian
Here is how it will work. A gun will be used in a crime. They’ll go to the first person who bought it new. He’ll tell him that he sold it years ago. Then they’ll start on the other end with the end use and work backwards. When they get to the guy who bought it from the first guy two months ago, they’ll scare him into admitting as much and offer him favorable treatment to tell on the first guy. He will and they’ll jam up the first guy with charges. Then, in any situation where they hit a dead end and can’t trace it back, they’ll use it as an example of why we really need a registry to make this work and close the “loopholes”.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:57 am to Ailsa
quote Steve Scalise:
House Democrats just REJECTED an amendment that would have required ICE to be notified if an illegal immigrant tries to buy a gun.
But they’re fine taking away the gun rights of law-abiding American citizens
https://twitter.com/stevescalise/status/1370045913004146691
House Democrats just REJECTED an amendment that would have required ICE to be notified if an illegal immigrant tries to buy a gun.
But they’re fine taking away the gun rights of law-abiding American citizens
https://twitter.com/stevescalise/status/1370045913004146691
Posted on 3/11/21 at 11:58 am to Ailsa
Will not get through cloture in Senate.
ETA: Nothing like some good wordsmithing to conjure up emotion by calling it the “Charleston Loophole.” Influencing the weak-minded through word play is what the Dems are best at.
ETA: Nothing like some good wordsmithing to conjure up emotion by calling it the “Charleston Loophole.” Influencing the weak-minded through word play is what the Dems are best at.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:01 pm to TerryDawg03
Tennessee is about Pass Constitutional carry. We won’t be required to have a permit or license to carry a gun anywhere anytime. It’s good to still live in the real America
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:03 pm to NashvilleTider
quote:
Tennessee is about Pass Constitutional carry. We won’t be required to have a permit or license to carry a gun anywhere anytime. It’s good to still live in the real America
Yeah...even if it passes I expect states to nullify this shite.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:04 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:Like what? Say, perhaps, white nationalism?
mental issues
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:05 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:
Gun Show Loophole."
Fake term used by leftist to push gun control.
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The new requirements would also apply to online sales.
We already have a law for that. You can't buy a gun online without sending it to a FFL.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:10 pm to BFIV
quote:
Then the number is traced and found to be registered to your son-in-law, who lives in another state. Yeah, you bought it from him in a private sale, but didn't get ownership transferred through a FFL dealer.
What if it's a gift? 4473?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:14 pm to Ailsa
quote:
The new requirements would also apply to online sales.
Lol do they think background checks aren't required online sales???
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:15 pm to BFIV
quote:
They would not know until the gun's serial number was traced for any number of reasons. You could be stopped for a traffic violation with your handgun in the car or on your person. Then the number is traced and found to be registered to your son-in-law, who lives in another state. Yeah, you bought it from him in a private sale, but didn't get ownership transferred through a FFL dealer.
Gift
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:16 pm to Ailsa
quote:
current federal law only requires background checks for licensed gun dealers
WRONG
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:16 pm to PewPewBlue
quote:
Fake term used by leftist to push gun control.
The next one to close will be "People can have guns" loophole (The Second Amendment).
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:22 pm to Ailsa
Let me guess, dread pirate Crenshaw was one of the 8?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Millennial McCain voted against it. He probably felt it wasn’t expansive enough.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:27 pm to TROLA
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Anyone who voted for this is ultimately for government control of firearm ownership
Let me fix this with fewer words
quote:
Anyone who voted for this is anti-Constitution
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:29 pm to Ailsa
Boy, the gun runners in the Cartels are really going to catch it now.
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