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re: US authorities arrest Palestinian student protester at Columbia University
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:49 pm to SOSFAN
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:49 pm to SOSFAN
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Anyone that backs the Palestinians isn't in any position to preach to anyone. Israel has given up territory after territory for peace but the it's hard to have peace when your opponent wants you dead no matter what. I'm sorry if actual facts hurt your Gaza feelings.
When did Israel give up territory?
For peace?
I have no love for Gaza, just humans.
I have no love for Israel, just humans.
I have kids and grandkids. I have love for them, and empathy for anyone like them. I have the intelligence to look further back in history further than two years.
How about you?
And you don't hurt my feelings, my friend.
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Israel is currently engaged in ethnic cleansing of Gaza after their apartheid state failed.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:50 pm to SOSFAN
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Wasn't trying to spin anything. You mentioned the release of the Epstein files and I just made the statement that people from both political parties would be screwed if they are released.
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The main reason why is that Israel is not blameless and they have their own laundry list of fricked up shite to criticize them over that makes the response justified.
From the same perspective, criticizing them for their role in the Epstein saga makes the response justified.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You do understand that the Palestinians saying " from the river to the sea" implies the extermination of the Jewish people.
It does not.
It most certainly does. Even the son of Hamas founder has stated this. They want the Jewish people exterminated. To say different is clearly ignorance or just a pure lie.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:53 pm to Asharad
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abusing his VISA
Is there a specific, documented list of abuses Mahmoud Khalil committed, or is even accused of? If you've got a link, even if it’s disreputable or obscure, post it. I'd like to learn more.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:53 pm to Grassy1
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1994–2000
As part of the Oslo I accords, Israel withdrew from 60% of the Gaza Strip and the city of Jericho to allow the Palestinian Liberation Organization to assume control (1994).
Israel exchanges land with Jordan in the Arava Valley as part of a peace agreement between both countries (1995)
In the Oslo II accord, Israel ceded all of the large Palestinian cities to Palestinian control and allowed Palestinian administration in 15% of the West Bank (1995)
Israel withdrew from most of Hebron as part of the Hebron Protocol (1997)
Israel ceded an additional 15% of the West Bank to the Palestinian administration as part of the Wye River Memorandum (1998)
Israel completed the Israeli withdrawals from the West Bank and enlarged the Palestinian zones to 20% full control and 20% civil control, bringing the total of West Bank territory under Palestinian rule to 40%, with over 90% of the Palestinian population living there. (1999)
2005
Israel withdrew from the remaining 40% of the Gaza Strip, evacuating all settlers and military bases in an attempt to revive the peace process. An attempt that ultimately fails.
2019
Israel withdraws from Zofar and Naharayim, two small territories leased by Jordan and used by Israeli farmers after Jordan refused to extend the lease.
These do not include all of Israel’s withdrawals. Israel also withdrew from northeastern Sinai in 1948 under American and British pressure and also withdrew from southern Lebanon in 1999. I didn’t include these since the question was about withdrawals for peace.
With that said I’ll add that in 2020 Israel has canceled its declared plan to annex West Bank settlements in exchange for peace with the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco. While personally, I don’t trust Netanyahu and Trump’s intentions, this explicitly proves that Israel will always prefer true peace over land.
This is just a small sample. ISRAEL has given up land to Muslims in hope for peace but when Muslims doctrine is to kill the Jewish people it doesn't work out.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:55 pm to SOSFAN
And where are they now?
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:57 pm to Bunk Moreland
Anything for our greatest ally
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:57 pm to Grassy1
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And where are they now?
Why do people think that the Jewish people living in their area is only decades old? There is written history that they have been there for thousands of years.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:59 pm to Boodis Man
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have any pro russian/anti ukraine protestors been arrested on campus. just askin
If you want to protect ukraines border but not ours, you should be arrested and taken to the front lines of Ukraine.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:01 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Good to see the free speech mavens in full hypocrite mode.
You havent been arrested for spewing stupidity. Seems like your free speech is still intact.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:02 pm to SOSFAN
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It most certainly does.
They want their land back. That's what the phrase means to 99%+ of the people who use it. They want to control all of Israel/Palestine.
It's a bad argument because "Palestine" has never really existed, but that's the argument.
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They want the Jewish people exterminated. To say different is clearly ignorance or just a pure lie.
If the Jews in Israel moved to Egypt or Jordan, do you think the Palestinians would follow the Jews into those countries to slaughter them?
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:02 pm to AggieHank86
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is leading a protest against the United States at an American University
Is a protest against Israeli policy a protest against the US?
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They want their land back. That's what the phrase means to 99%+ of the people
What land? There has never been a country called Palestinian. In fact the Roman's gave them their name.
From the " River to the Sea" means no Jewish people in that area and with their doctrine it absolutely means extermination of the Jewish people. Don't be such a dunce.
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noun \ ‘fruhm ‘th? ‘RIV?r ‘too ‘th? ‘si \
: a phrase that can be used to call for the elimination of the State of Israel and/or ethnic cleansing of Jews living there, to be replaced with Palestinian control over the entire territory from the Jordan River to the
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the Jews in Israel moved to Egypt or Jordan, do you think the Palestinians would follow the Jews into those countries to slaughter them?
Fact is none of the other Muslim nations want the Palestinians
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:06 pm to SOSFAN
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What land? There has never been a country called Palestinian.
Can you not read?
NEXT LINE OF MY POST
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It's a bad argument because "Palestine" has never really existed, but that's the argument.
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From the " River to the Sea" means no Jewish people in that area and with their doctrine it absolutely means extermination of the Jewish people.
NEXT LINE OF MY POST (Try not to ignore it this time)
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If the Jews in Israel moved to Egypt or Jordan, do you think the Palestinians would follow the Jews into those countries to slaughter them?
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:07 pm to AggieHank86
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On what charges?
Overstaying his Visa
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The Trump administration revoked his Visa. Immigration enforcement officials told his attorney the State Department had revoked his green card as well.
He refused to leave, and was on a media blitz instead
FAFO
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If the Jews in Israel moved to Egypt or Jordan, do you think the Palestinians would follow the Jews into those countries to slaughter them?
If the Palestinians didn't attack and left Israel alone do you think Israel would try to exterminate them. Fact is that area is not the Palestinians. History from thousands of years show the Jewish people living there.
The son of the founder of Hamas has also stated that if Israel wasn't there the different Palestinians tribes would kill each other. That's all they know.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:12 pm to SOSFAN
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If the Palestinians didn't attack and left Israel alone do you think Israel would try to exterminate them.
Israel wouldn't go into Egypt or Jordan to continue to continue to kill Palestinians, just as the Palestinians wouldn't go into Egypt or Jordan to kill Israelis.
I used Egypt and Jordan specifically, because the US and Israel are currently trying to have them agree to take the ethnically cleansed Palestinians, FWIW.
All of this is dodging answering my question, though.
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Fact is that area is not the Palestinians.
I agree. Has nothing to do with my question.
Are you going to answer the question or continue to obfuscate?
THIRD CHANCE
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If the Jews in Israel moved to Egypt or Jordan, do you think the Palestinians would follow the Jews into those countries to slaughter them?
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Fact is that area is not the Palestinians.
I agree. Has nothing to do with my question.
If you agree with that then why even ask the question of " what if"? Israel is home. The Palestinians are actually looked down on and not wanted by other Muslim nations. That alone should tell you about their tribe.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:16 pm to SOSFAN
quote:And genetic studies tell us that the "Palestinians" and the Mizrahi Jews are largely the same people, historically speaking.
Fact is that area is not the Palestinians. History from thousands of years show the Jewish people living there.
quote:Both descend from the preceding Canaanite culture.
The DNA study by Nebel found substantial genetic overlap among Israeli/Palestinian Arabs and Jews. The study concluded that "part, or perhaps the majority" of Muslim Palestinians descend from "local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD"
Those "converted" Jews and Christians DID interbreed with the invading Arabs after the 7th century, which accounts for most of the genetic difference between their descendants and the Mizrahi Jews.
The Ashkenazi (northern European) and Sephardic (southern European) Jews are a different story. They left the Levant after destruction of the Second Temple, and they have a much larger European admixture. Arguably, they are more genetically-distinct from the Mizrahi Jews than are many of the "Palestinians."
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 9:58 pm
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