re: US Abruptly Cancels Media Conference After Zelensky Met With Trump's Ukraine Envoy

yes there on their doorstep because bush put them there as a provocation a silent act of war more or less when obama threatened to put ukraine on their doorstep russia said no.

what you're not understanding is i don't care what putin does to countries who have historically been part of russia for 1000 years estonia has 1.3 million people in area 1/3 the size of arkansas. so i don't care what happens to it i only care what could potentially happen to my home in arkansas because of it, which means my garden of phucks to give is barren.

It’s funny how Putin never had an issue with Ukraine until his puppet was kicked out and the Wests puppet was installed.

Let's try this once more:

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Not provoke a war with the threat of parking a NATO member on Russia's border.


That bullshite can't be taken seriously. NATO is a defensive pact. If Putin had no plans to invade Ukraine, NATO on his border wouldn't matter.

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You stated in this thread that it's like people have never cracked open a history book. You were describing yourself. You are full of ignorance in this.

This is prior to Russia taking land in 2014.

Do I need to to point out..... What am I thinking. I do need to point it out to you. There is a reason that question was about the Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO.

Look it up.

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And are we going to let some third rate despot dictate who can and who cannot be in our alliance? WTF?

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What's your friggin problem with peace?

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The fleet didn't stop the missiles from getting to Cuba.

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So this is all fake??


How JFK stopped the crisis:

Kennedy met with advisors in secret to discuss the crisis
Kennedy decided to impose a naval blockade around Cuba
Kennedy gave Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev an ultimatum to remove the missiles
Khrushchev agreed to remove the missiles, and the US agreed not to invade Cuba


Are you saying that did not happen? Please say that you are saying that.

We would have INVADED had they not complied.

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The why are we supporting Putin so much?

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We aren't supporting him in anything. In fact, he currently has been sanctioned by the world.

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It would be one thing to just withdraw, but that's not what we're doing. We're trying to give Putin everything he wants, while picking over the remaining carcass ourselves.

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No we are not. Your continue to be over the top so much that you are hyper emotional without rational thought.

You claimed we are all on Putin's side. Still have yet to back off that.

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Trump further said that Zelensky chose to sleep instead of meeting with the high-ranking American official to discuss the White House proposed mineral rights deal. "Zelensky was sleeping and unavailable to meet him," Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One.

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The Begger King would do well to learn to respect the hand that feeds.

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None a single goddamned one of you would settle for this shite if your country had been invaded.

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There isnt a single country on earth that would come to our aid. Who has a military capable of doing so? The European countries don’t have squat for militaries.

I absolutely love the “unlawful invasion” narrative. As if Russia or the US are subject to some higher global justice system that makes war illegal. Maybe the global police can arrest Putin and take him to global trial! That’ll teach him.

I’ve never heard such naive shite and I’ve been here a while.

Fun fact. Russia came to the aid of the North in the civil war in the form of warships protecting ports in NY and SF. The payment for these services was 7MM. Alaska, then worthless to Russias interests and virtually unmanageable from St Petersburg, was given to the US to mask the transaction from the British.

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Why is Trump meeting with Putin without any Ukraine representatives present?

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Trump is representing the interests of the U.S. Why would he need a Ukranian rep for that?

You may need to up your dosage.

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So this is all fake??


How JFK stopped the crisis:

Kennedy met with advisors in secret to discuss the crisis
Kennedy decided to impose a naval blockade around Cuba
Kennedy gave Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev an ultimatum to remove the missiles
Khrushchev agreed to remove the missiles, and the US agreed not to invade Cuba

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Not fake so much as just American propaganda.

The US put Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey. Khrushchev responds by putting missiles in Cuba. The US mobilizes, the USSR does NOT. (That's key) Khrushchev tells JFK he'll take the missiles out of Cuba if the US takes its missiles out of Turkey. The US agrees only if the USSR lets the US withdraw the missiles in secret after the Cuban missiles are withdrawn. Khrushchev agrees knowing that JFK needs the press, while Khrushchev does not. Khrushchev takes the missiles out of Cuba, and by April, 1963, the Jupiter missiles were removed from Turkey.

Washington, D.C., April 20, 2023 - Sixty years ago, during April 1963, the U.S. Air Force took steps to implement the final stage of the secret U.S.-Soviet deal that helped resolve the Cuban Missile Crisis with the dismantling of the Jupiter missiles deployed in Italy and Turkey. While Air Force leaders had no knowledge of the secret agreement, they had instructions from the Defense Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff to remove the Jupiters and to render them “unidentifiable,” according to the Air Force’s declassified “Plan for the Withdrawal and Disposition” of the Jupiter system published here today for the first time by the National Security Archive. The Air Force dubbed the dismantling operations Pot Pie I (Italy) and Pot Pie II (Turkey).
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The so-called "Cuban Missile Crisis" was never what you thought it was. As a matter of fact, the US and USSR came closer to war in 1983 than they did in 1962.

JFK was a young naive pill head and Khrushchev played him like a puppet.

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You claimed we are all on Putin's side.

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Nope, Trump is on Putin's side, you all are just on Trump's side.