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re: **UPDATED*Full (Redacted) MAL Raid Affidavit(PDF of Redaction Filing + Link to Doc)

Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:47 am to
Posted by PhDoogan
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Posted by whiskey over ice
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:47 am to
I’m not sure what’s under the black bars but it only proves that what he did was such a threat to our democracy that he can’t be allowed to run again
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:49 am to
This is a legal memorandum submitted in support of the redactions on the affidavit. If the legal memorandum has this many reducations, the affidavit is likely going to have more.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:49 am to
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Someone linked the actual affidavit in the thread I started. It's thirty some odd pages, with multiple basically whole pages of redactions.


Just found actual affidavit & added to OP
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:50 am to
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I’m not sure what’s under the black bars but it only proves that what he did was such a threat to our democracy that he can’t be allowed to run again



Why isn't he under arrest if it's so bad?

Shouldn't we have to presume he's still privy to all the highly super secret stuff he apparently WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE and could still do all the bad stuff you seem to fear he could do with them if he did?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:50 am to
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ETA: the affidavit is out there. What’s quoted in OP is not the affidavit


Link to affidavit added to OP, along with summary images of the first half.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:50 am to
We're the laziest mother frickers on the planet for putting up with this shite.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:51 am to
That's useless.

All it does is paint the severe need for redaction (without providing any evidence that I can see) and then redacts a ton of things.

For us, this looks like a bullshite coverup which will simply allow bad actors to continue to suggest this is SO BAD no one can see it.

For Leftists, this proves their worst fears in that nothing can be unsealed because Trumpists are deranged lunatics trying to murder FBI agents, and the stuff that was blacked out most be SO BAD that if it got out Putin would bomb our country!

What a complete clown show.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:52 am to
this is a big nothing burger.

What a load of shite.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:52 am to
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The info I really want to see is redacted.


Yep. But I don't even really care who the "witnesses" are, I just want to know why they felt it necessary to conduct a search in the first place. And I want to know what kind of "national security" information Trump supposedly had.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:52 am to
I'm sure it's nothing.

Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:53 am to
Posted by LEASTBAY
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:53 am to
It is what we thought it was. Nothing.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:53 am to
The only questions I have are:

Does the President have the authority to declassify documents?

Did Trump declassify them before leaving office?

If the answer is yes to both questions, then the FBI and the magistrate will have a LOT of explaining to do.

Just reading the tea leaves, but I highly doubt Trump would have pushed for the release of the affidavit, if he wasn't holding a royal flush.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:54 am to
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I just want to know why they felt it necessary to conduct a search in the first place. And I want to know what kind of "national security" information Trump supposedly had.
To the extent that is included in the affidavit, it is heavily redacted. Definitions of the levels of classified documents dominate the bulk of the unredacted info. Much of the alleged basis for probable cause section is redacted.

There is little in this release that would quell suspicion that the raid was politically motivated.
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 11:56 am
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:55 am to
Yes. President can point his middle finger at the documents and say declassified. Maybe they thought this would make him look bad even though they have no case. Always backfires. Trump powers intensified
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:55 am to
Don’t worry. CNN will tell us what’s up.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:56 am to
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I'm not really keeping up with this much - but that's not an affidavit, redacted or otherwise. It's just a redacted brief about the redactions needed for the affidavit (so arguably it's worse )

unless I'm missing something here


Mods deleted the link to the affidavit but I still have it open and just finished reading it.

The un-named FBI agent specializing in counter intelligence claims that in working with national archives and two of Trumps lawyers he determined there were classified docs at Trump's place and they were 1: not stored securely, even if Trump had the right to them, they have to be stored more secure than how he was storing them, which is a federal crime. and 2: redacted.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19348 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:57 am to
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Fm1her, the FBI agents observed markings reflecting the following compa11ments/dissemination controls: HCS, FISA, ORCON, NOFORN, and SI


I bet they did. Since they were about the Russiagate hoax and had been declassified.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11950 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:57 am to
I correctly predicted a bundle of black paper.

Administrative BS still ongoing and when will it end ?

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