re: UPDATE : Big beautiful bill’ to include millions acres of public lands FOR SALE

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Federally owned land also doesn't generate tax revenue, it costs taxpayers for largely neglected maintenance.
Wrong


There are taxes and fees paid by users of public lands that go directly back to maintenance of those lands

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I does generate leases and fees for use, mining, timber, grazing and such, but, I wouldn't call that taxes. I suspect that property taxes on housing and commercial property would be far, far greater along with the substantially increased economic activity. That activity and income would go directly to the states, towns and communities rather than the federal bureaucracy.

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We do not have a housing shortage. We have a shortage of locations that aren't in crime riddled shitholes of total fricking anarchy.

Don't sell public land. Don't develop more housing. Clean up all the fricking garbage and get all those relatively affordable urban and suburban locations safe and viola, housing inventory issue solved.

All this does is make some dickheads rich, rob land from the taxpayers, and make more shitholes for shite people.

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This is simply not close to reality. Boise Idaho is a good example. Statistically the housing forecast in Boise is the second worse in the nation with vacancy rates at historic lows. Crime is very low for comparably sized cities and the area is renowned for being a very good area to live. Its considered one of the more progressive cities in the nation as far as building and zoning is concerned so that is not as much of a barrier and generally the community is pushing for development. Opening up public land in the area which is suitable for housing (water available, some system in place for handling waste and traffic) is a good idea and, apparently, one that a small majority in the area are open to. Almost the entire souther 2/3s of the county is owned by BLM. Most of it is probably without water at all (although the Snake River is the southern boundary of the county and there may be a lot of ground water in the area). Whatever the case is it is not a shite hole suffering from high crime and there is little anarchy in Boise, Idaho.

The problem is its a one way ticket. Once its gone, its gone forever. Not every square inch of the country needs to be commercialized.

The land should be retained by the US government (the people) and access/usage opportunities should be expanded.

Public land is the most American thing in the world.

This is one thing the liberals get right. All of this development is going to be slums in 50 years at the most, and thats if they make it high end now. frick that cycle. Leave it undeveloped, and un-frick the development we already have.

Well at least the left arkansas out of it.

Currently the only way you can aquire federal forest land here in arkansas is with a 2 to 1 land trade. You give 2 acres to aquire one acre and the land you trade has to be adjacent to already existing federal land. It's a pain in the arse but it can be done.

A relative of mine traded 110 acres for 55 acres closer to a highway. The larger tract of land couldnt have power ran to it.

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What’s more, the bill doesn’t just prioritize small tracts of land around existing metropolitan or suburban areas (where you might consider building homes). In the list of land that should be given “priority consideration” are “isolated tracts that are inefficient to manage.” The bill does not explain which parcels count as “inefficient.”

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This calls for the sale of .5-.75% of BLM managed land. That’s the yellow shaded areas only





I think we will be ok. Odds are the land chosen will be land out west that’s worthless outside of cattle grazing and it likely gets sold to ranchers who use it for that already


We aren’t selling national parks and wildlife sanctuaries/ hunting and fishing parks

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This bill is insanity.

They're just trying to cram a year's worth of legislation in a normal Congress into one bill. Nobody should be supporting this piece of garbage.

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'Tis the way......Executive Orders and giant, bloated omnibus bills that 95% of the useless fricks voting on it will never actually read.

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The purpose of this proposal is to make available some land to address the housing shortage.

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Yeah, I don’t believe that. We don’t have a housing shortage in rural areas. We have a housing shortage in, and around, urban areas. The housing shortage has to do with NIMBY regulations (some of which I support).

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We aren’t selling national parks and wildlife sanctuaries/ hunting and fishing parks

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WRONG AGAIN



Just because you don't use it doesn't mean it isn't used

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I suspect that property taxes on housing and commercial property would be far, far greater along with the substantially increased economic activity. That activity and income would go directly to the states, towns and communities rather than the federal bureaucracy.

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That seems logical and reasonable imho.