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re: UPDATE : Big beautiful bill’ to include millions acres of public lands FOR SALE

Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Pecos Pedro
Member since Nov 2024
745 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:56 am to
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GetCocky11


Retarded Boomer Exhibit 2

How do all the TDS tards flood a thread like this with their stupidity?

Was it initially posted on the OT? Do these people sort their home page by trending?

None of these characters are in here when their tribe is raping infants to death or assassinating people in cold blood. Bizarre.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
2530 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:56 am to
Save for national parks and military bases, the fed government has no business owning land. Any building needed can be leased
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157977 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:12 am to


The US government doesn’t need to own any more land in Utah even if some is sold. It doesn’t need replaced.

Besides, much of the land owned by the Feds in Utah is uninhabitable or impossible to build on.
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49999 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:23 am to
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The government owns like 90% of Nevada. Y'all think that's a good thing?

YOU own like 90% of Nevada

I own like 90% of Nevada

Charlie owns like 90% of Nevada
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8524 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:26 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65876 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:28 am to
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Trump’s bill includes up to 3 millions acres of YOUR land to private developers, the house removed this from the bill but Utah senator added it back in.


The US government owns way too much land.

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This means China can come in and buy MORE land in United States. He’s putting PUBLIC land up for sale to China


How in the world did you jump to this conclusion?
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2253 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:31 am to
You can tell who those are on this board that live in the city and have only been outdoors when its to hunt their nice high fence leases
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49999 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:33 am to
It's mind boggling how blind some of these folks can be



On one hand they say it should be sold and will be used for housing and the other hand saying "why does the government need it, it's uninhabitable"
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7181 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:34 am to
Trump is so damned good he even found a way to make more real estate.
Posted by Bowstring1
Member since Sep 2016
265 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:43 am to
Exactly this! The federal government owning land is unamerican!
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49999 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:44 am to
Public lands are the epitome of American
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26534 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:50 am to
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the taxpayers can’t use that land now


Federally owned land also doesn't generate tax revenue, it costs taxpayers for largely neglected maintenance.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49999 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:52 am to
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Federally owned land also doesn't generate tax revenue, it costs taxpayers for largely neglected maintenance.

Wrong


There are taxes and fees paid by users of public lands that go directly back to maintenance of those lands
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:52 am to


Do better, Trump
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5564 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:05 am to
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Of all the governments shortcomings, public lands have done well



I'm sure there are situations where selling small areas of public land makes sense. ie, private property locked public lands that serve as nothing but a taxpayer owned piece of property for the surrounding landowner. Or mediocre boring public lands near areas that desperately need more housing where 500acres would be huge.

The problem is that its so ripe for corruption to the point the my default answer is just "no".

Also as to the situation in OP, the monies are just going into the general fund and will disappear like a fart in the wind.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58213 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:12 am to
Damn. Didn't know 20% of Mississippi is owned by Feds. We got the Natchez Trace Parkway and Bienville national forest. Trying to think of what else.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49999 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:13 am to
De Soto National Forest

Delta National Forest

Homochito National Forest
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5564 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:24 am to
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We have a shortage of locations that aren't in crime riddled shitholes of total fricking anarchy.




But if we sell off some land to DLSD, they can build some shitty homes that in 30years will be dumps which can then be offloaded to poor people who like drugs. Then we can sell off another lot of land to the 2055 version of DLSD and repeat the cycle.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8027 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:30 am to
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Getting rid of public land is unamerican.


That is some top level early American progressivism right there. Nothing like wrapping yourself in the American flag as you wipe your butt with the Constitution. Just my point of view of Teddy and the start of “bigger government is better government for the individual” movement.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14068 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:32 am to
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The federal government has been selling land to citizens pretty much since day 1 and the money has always or almost always gone into the treasury. The federal government bought the land with taxpayer money (like the Louisiana Purchase and other treaties) and returns the proceeds to the Treasury.

If they wanted to add a provision that they had to use the proceeds from this to buy other land and preserve it, I would not at all be opposed to that, but to act like this is some sort of evil plan is just silly.



I think its a good idea with some caveats...first and foremost if the goal is to provide more land that can be developed into more housing then it should be land that is suitable for housing, it should have water on it or can be serviced by municipal water, it should perk or have a plan to get rid of sewage and most importantly it should be in an area that needs more housing. Again, if that is the plan. Do that and use the money to acquire more suitable land for wilderness areas or make improvements to existing wilderness areas.

If this is the plan I doubt seriously if there would be more than the typical opposition which hates everything. frick those people.

It should be a fairly simple calculation. I would bet that BLM or Land Reclamation Land or National Forest land in a reasonable commuting distance would be far more valuable to a developer than land that is in the middle of nowhere with out enough water to make it suitable for housing....therefore the number of acres in the portfolio of lands open for public use would be greater even if it was further from town. Again, I doubt there more than cursory push back on this...and most of it would be from current home owners in the area in question who have seen their homes value increase in value dramatically due to a shortage of housing in the area.
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