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re: Unfortunately, there is a calamitous flaw in the US constitution.

Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by Humpty Grumpy
Magnolia, TX
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:17 pm to
Let’s not forget . . . At least one founder understood —-


The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10287 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Unfortunately, there is a calamitous flaw in the US constitution.


The Constitution is simply a piece of parchment written a few hundred years ago. It really isn’t anything more than that. Many other countries including Canada, Mexico, Liberia, Guatemala, and others adopted the exact same or almost the same Constitution. Look where they are now

The Constitution is written on the hearts of the people who make up the country. It will take on a life of its own from there and go whichever direction it needs to, the dusty document has no power in of itself if the people don’t adhere to it.

The original Constitution does not work with mass immigration, universal suffrage, women voting, welfare recipients voting, etc.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
41916 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:44 pm to
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It’s called the 2nd amendment

Yahtzee

Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
14908 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:44 pm to
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There isn't a dead man's switch in the constitution for preserving the constitutional republic against the enemies from within.


Oath keepers.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53502 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:54 pm to
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There is no magic bullet. The Constitution—no constitution—will work when political culture reaches a certain anti-freedom tipping point.


The anti freedom tipping point is when the majority of the populace wants a government monstrosity to provide for their basic needs.....we're getting close and as AI, automation and robotics displace more and more people from their jobs the tipping point will likely occur.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
41916 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:55 pm to
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it.

The original Constitution does not work with mass immigration, universal suffrage, women voting, illegal welfare recipients voting, etc.


Bingo



But allow me to focus it down a little bit.

All of it started in 1919 with the 19th Amendment giving females the Right to Vote. Everything else that you listed is the result of that one major mistake.

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The 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution was passed by the Senate on June 4, 1919, with a vote of 56 in favor and 25 opposed. The senators who voted in favor were 36 Republicans and 20 Democrats. The Republican senators who voted in favor included Capper, Cummins, Curtis, Edge, Elkins, Fall, Fernald, France, Frelinghuysen, Gronna, Hale, Harding, Johnson (Cal.), Jones (Wash.), Kellogg, Kenyon, Kayes, La Follette, Lenroot, McCormick, McCumber, McNaty, Nelson, New, Newberry, Norris, Page, Phipps, Poindexter, Sherman, Smoot, Spencer, Sterling, Sutherland, Warren, and Watson. The Democratic senators who voted in favor were Ashurst, Chamberlain, Culberson, Harris, Henderson, Jones (N. M.), Kenrick, Kirby, McKellar, Myers, Nugent, Phelan, Pittman, Ransdell, Shepard, Smith (Ariz.), Stanley, Thomas, Walsh (Mass.), and Walsh (Mon.). The House of Representatives had previously passed the amendment on May 21, 1919, with 304 votes in favor and 89 opposed. The vote in the House was also heavily skewed toward Republicans, with over 200 Republicans voting in favor compared to only 102 Democrats.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

It was the beginning of the end.



Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
764 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:55 pm to
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The original Constitution does not work with mass immigration, universal suffrage, women voting, welfare recipients voting, etc.


Was written where only stakeholders had the right to vote.

That was the stop check but we blew right through it.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3329 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:24 am to
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You're either naïve or disingenuous.

Right back at you.

Ideologically pure systems never work. Humans just don't work that way.
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There will always be a predominant ideology throughout the federal government and every major institution.....depending on who is in control



The "ideology" of our government doesn't change depending on who is president.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45289 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:26 am to
Christians need to seek reformation in the church and evangelize the nation. We need to be in prayer for God’s mercy as we seek to be faithful to His commands.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9835 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:02 am to
2nd amendment.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147697 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:04 am to
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Some broke dick living off the gubment downvoted this
why you have to bring up Roger’s penis
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3197 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:09 am to
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You do realize the problem with this thinking? Both sides think they are the "good guys" and the other side is the "bad guys" that must be stopped.


I've seen this point & don't think it's as limiting as commonly believed.
Even blatant criminals often believe that they're justified, righteous, in the right etc. But it hasn't stopped society from setting up laws for thousands of years.

Is this different in your opinion? And if so, why?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7588 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:15 am to
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The "ideology" of our government doesn't change depending on who is president.


The bureaucratic class is corrupt. That never changes and that is an ideology of sorts.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14657 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:20 am to
The Constitution guarantees a Republican form of government.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7588 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:21 am to
The flaw is that it is curated by lawyers.

How many of the people who wrote it were lawyers?
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4549 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:22 am to
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One side presents an existential threat to western civilization. The other is trying to preserve what we have here while the rest of the West replaces itself. Easy choice for me.


BINGO. The days of "I vote (D) for abortion rights" etc. are over

It is now these two choices moving forward with American politics. Globalism vs. Nationalism.

England may have waited too late to start realizing what Globalism was doing.

NWO Globalism - existential threat to western civilization

MAGA/America First - preserve our Constitutional Republic
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463653 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:23 am to
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How many of the people who wrote it were lawyers?


Madison studied law

For a larger sampling of our founding fathers...

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John Adams: A lawyer, diplomat, and the second president, he was a key figure in the American Revolution and even defended the British soldiers accused in the Boston Massacre.

Thomas Jefferson: Admitted to the Virginia bar in 1767, he practiced law for several years before becoming the primary author of the Declaration of Independence and the third president.

James Madison: A student of law and political theory, he became the fourth president and is considered the leading author of the Bill of Rights, although he was not admitted to the bar.

Alexander Hamilton: Admitted to the New York bar at age 25, he had a successful legal career before his public service, specializing in maritime litigation.

Aaron Burr: A lawyer who served as the third Vice President of the United States.

Roger Sherman: A signer of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, he was a lawyer from Connecticut.

Samuel Chase: A delegate to the Continental Congress and a Supreme Court Justice.

William Ellery: A signer of the Declaration of Independence and a Rhode Island Supreme Court Justice.

Other signers: Among the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, 25 were lawyers.

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