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re: Under what circumstances would you fully support a Covid-19 vaccine mandate?

Posted on 10/16/21 at 11:46 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80094 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 11:46 pm to
If it's done by legislative action by state instead of executive fiat.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24869 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 11:48 pm to
1. There’s a vaccine.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29161 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 11:59 pm to
There isn’t a circumstance at all that I would support the government mandating people to take it at all. Companies mandating it is a different story, I’m fine with them setting their own rules, that’s assuming there is zero from the government coercing them to do so.

I think it’s idiotic the way people have politicized it, and after the election it’s turned from Trump's warp speed miracle vaccine to Biden's poison jab and now people are not only refusing to get the shot, but losing their jobs when they have a wife and kids that rely on that paycheck but hey that’s their decision.

But I don’t agree with the government mandating it or anything else medical someone may do.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 12:50 am to
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vaccinations are a moot attempt to control viral spread.


No they are not. They don't control the spread, but instead increase it.

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The good thing is data shows that MRNA COVID-19 vaccines do lessen the chance of hospitalization and death


True if you survive the shot they do but only for a few months then you have to risk your life again to get a booster. How long does the booster last? Another few months? Does your immune system stay in a weakened state to things other than covid-19 after the mRNA shot or booster wear off or is that permanent?



Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 5:16 am to
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If COVID was bad enough you wouldn’t need a mandate.

Yep. If COVID was putting 1 out of every 10 people in the grave, people would be lining up to get the shots and doing all of the preventive measures necessary to limit the spread.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7117 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 5:16 am to
There should never be a mandate to force citizens to inject anything into their body.

Right wing libertarians like myself were yelling from the rooftops, once you let government get into the healthcare business you aren’t going to like the results. Laws like Obamacare put politicians and healthcare providers too close, now we are reaping the results of those close relationships. The reason for the mandates is money, since we created an incentive for the medical industry to be large political contributors to politicians. This was predictable.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30108 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 5:36 am to
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and after the election it’s turned from Trump's warp speed miracle vaccine to Biden's poison jab

I think the same people have been against it from its inception. Trump is on record stating that he believes in the vaccine and is all for everyone who so chooses to get the vaxx. So it really isn't about Trump or Biden, because both have "endorsed" it. But the people are standing their ground for reasons personal to them, that's all it boils down to. Again, not Trump vs Biden.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16209 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 5:50 am to
If the business or gov agency will be fiscally responsible to their employees in the small chance that some of those employees have adverse reactions to the vaccine.

But then again.. if motherfrickers had to be responsible for adverse vaccine reactions, there wouldn't be any mandates to begin with.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6168 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 6:29 am to
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to be fair it's destroying company productivity with infections


Moot point.
"Vaccine" doesn't prevent infections.
Everyone is gonna get it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58862 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 6:35 am to
Under no circumstances whatsoever will I ever support a Covid-19 vaccine mandate, or any mandate for that matter that jambs a foreign substance into a human’s body by force.


You’re either free or you’re not man, and when a government forces you to put a vaccine in your body, that very act is proof positive that you are NOT free any longer.


Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
2532 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 6:50 am to
None
Posted by chef tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
694 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:23 am to
If the vax actually worked there would be no need for a mandate.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:26 am to
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If COVID was bad enough you wouldn’t need a mandate.

Bingo! There is the answer.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20375 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:52 am to
If it got to the point where the virus got deadly enough for local authorities send a meat wagon around once a day with loudspeakers blaring “bring out your dead!” then I would support it.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 7:56 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6489 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:54 am to
I would never support a mandate under any circumstance. People have the right to decide what is injected into their body. End of story.
Posted by nhlittle
Rye New Hampshire
Member since Sep 2017
44 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:58 am to
None whatsoever. Im having a tough time considering our current gummit as legitimate.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4753 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:06 am to
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If Covid-19 was truly dangerous enough to require a vaccine mandate, then the border should be locked down and "undocumented immigrants" should be first on the list for vaccinations.

The same would be true of the BLM riots that ensued last year. If our government was so concerned with public health and safety, more would be done about public vagrancy and indigents flooding cities.

This kind of hypocrisy is precisely why I am against such mandates on responsible hard working people. The government is applying an agenda on law abiding people to bring them to heel, yet letting law breakers off scott free.

Something is rotten in the state of our nation.


All of this.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:07 am to
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If it actually was a pandemic and not a political weapon. 99% of America supports vaccination for measles and polio. We aren’t resisting on things that are actual deadly diseases.


Correct. Smallpox, one of the biggest killers of humans throughout our history, was completely eradicated through vaccinating almost every human being on the planet. No one has to hold a gun to people's heads or anything else... people KNEW how horrible smallpox was, and the vaccine 100% eliminated your chance of ever getting it.

Hell, I would have volunteered to be in the test group to get a smallpox vaccine.

This COVID crap, though, is just that, all a bunch of bullshite.
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
1966 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:08 am to
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This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73434 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:18 am to
Toss in companies with under 100 employees.
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