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re: UGH! Not a good look from POTUS!

Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:59 am to
Posted by MetalJacket1973
Member since Jul 2025
72 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:59 am to
Trump is a Panican.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25765 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:59 am to
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AncientTiger


From the guy that tried to bankrupt the TD money board. You had several bad looks in your rantings back in the day
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20177 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:00 am to
I feel sorry for Ghislaine Maxwell getting caught up in this hoax. She should be released this afternoon.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4550 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:01 am to
If it ain't the Captain of the SS Panican crawling out of his hole.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23084 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:03 am to
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It’s because not on the side that you think he is he’s not making an error it’s intentional

I’m being completely objective here.

Setting aside my own personal perspective on what’s right and wrong 80% of Americans and the vast majority of his base thinks he’s outright lying on this issue.

If he didn’t want the evidence to be released for whatever reason he could’ve slow played it saying they are continuing to investigate but that the evidence available doesn’t support additional prosecutions at this time and this would’ve been a relatively minor issue going forward.

Instead he said no evidence exists at all and today he told his base on his platform that if they don’t agree with him on this that he doesn’t want them around.

That’s not bad politics. That’s an emotional temper tantrum that tells 80% of the country to F off. It’s also escalating this into an existential issue moving forward within the MAGA wing of the party not just for 2026 but moving forward.

Taking the wrong side of an 80:20 issue can be done with a lot of political capital but it has to be done incredibly carefully.

This is a case study in how not to do it.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 11:13 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23879 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:09 am to
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He is digging himself a bigger hole that eventually he won't get out of. The majority of his supporters are not going to let this go and the more he tries to deflect and coverup the worse this will get for him.

What are you going to do about it? Vote him out?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13030 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:15 am to
He’s only addressing the dim operatives and those so stupid they fall for their propaganda…
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63253 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:16 am to
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I feel sorry for Ghislaine Maxwell getting caught up in this hoax. She should be released this afternoon.
Why hasn't Trump pardoned her?
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1977 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:17 am to
Well, he’s not wrong. You people are a bunch of weaklings who are just now getting in touch with your “Inner George Will”.

Conservatives, ask yourselves, “What would Rush do?” I guarantee you he wouldn’t be bashing Trump. And he sure as frick wouldn’t be allying himself with democrooks.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69110 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:19 am to
Between the BBB and Epstein Trump has pissed off a lot of his supporters.

At least we get the southern border secure and dyes out of our food.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9342 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:22 am to
If any other 79 year old man in America posted this on his social media, any family member reading it would be like "frick, maybe it really is time to put Grandpa in a home!"
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87241 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:26 am to
I'm not that invested in what Trump does or doesn't do on this issue, but I really don't understand his approach on this one.

Tell people you're working on it, or tell people the FBI lost/squandered evidence or tell people we're all learning in real time that the reality doesn't match the years of speculation...

But shouting at your supporters and claiming they're buying into the left's conspiracy theories after your movement was by far the biggest cheerleader of said theories for years is just bizarre.

There are a lot of times where I can see an angle from Trump even if it's nothing close to how I'd want him to do it...but this just seems like frustration at the box he's put himself in.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55231 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:06 am to
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Republicans learn just fine, it’s just they lie to their base to get elected then go to DC to do what their donors tell them. We’re the suckers, not them.

There is some wisdom, right there.
Posted by MetalJacket1973
Member since Jul 2025
72 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:11 am to
He's been trying to cover his arse on this for a LONGGGGGGGGGG time. Remember this?

LINK
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28500 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:16 am to
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One of them just died under suspicious circumstances I sure as hell wouldn’t want to talk to the press right now when the president has clearly signaled he doesn’t want to touch it.

And another who actually filed suit back in 2016 was threatened with death if she didn't voluntarily drop this lawsuit.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6351 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:25 am to
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People really believe the democrats had control of the file for 4 years and just let it sit there undisturbed? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any democrat name would have obviously been removed and republicans added. Doubtful one single original page remains.


They altered the files from the Florida state court criminal proceedings? Why did DeSantis let them do that?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23084 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:26 am to
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And another who actually filed suit back in 2016 was threatened with death if she didn't voluntarily drop this lawsuit.

Hell they just told Ghislane Maxwell they didn’t want her to testify, what’s one victim going to do?

If the DOJ doesn’t want to pursue a case for political reasons with boxes of video and other related evidence (assuming it wasn’t destroyed) one girl going on Fox isn’t going to change their mind and is only going to result in her and her family living in fear the rest of her life.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56528 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:43 am to
I didn't read his long post

Trump needs to dial in quick

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40996 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:49 am to
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The bigger issue to me is how fixated some are on only Epstein when there’s SIGNIFICANT cases out there with real constitutional implications like Russiagate and Butler being investigated and no one here seems to care


I’ve got some bad news for you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:51 am to
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wouldn’t be allying himself with democrooks.


Which is what Trump is doing with the Epstein case
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