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re: Twitter thread on 75 year old (Martin Gugino) Buffalo rioter that was shoved

Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Conspiracy theories though...that’s for the truly enlightened!


When Trump accused the Obama Administration of spying on the Trump Campaign, it was labeled as a conspiracy theory.

We now know for an absolute FACT that Obama, jug-eared, treasonous piece of dog zhit, really DID unlawfully and immorally SPY on Trump as well as Journalists.....

Suck it.....
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

It’s still excessive use of force


Not when he is reaching toward a duty belt that has weapons on it.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:45 pm to
I don't know why I am wasting my time trying to explain this to you, but maybe someone else will become a little educated on why the old man was left there while the cameras were rolling.

When in crowd control/ riot control formation everyone has a specific job to do.
First line usually shields to push back/ clear an area
Second line has less than lethal, think pepper spray, riot baton, Tasers, etc.
Third line lethal means
Behind this formation are the ones who do the cuffing and arresting
Behind them are the medical personnel, EMTs, medics, etc.
If 1 person doesn't do their job the whole effort fails.

The old man was stepped over until the right line of personnel got to him.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:46 pm to
Then why were the officers arrested?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157947 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:48 pm to
The slow mo video is eye opening. The antifa wanna be was barely pushed.

He should have been at home tending to his boyfriend.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

he group of 30 somethings in full riot gear step right over him.


As they should.

Antifa and their Communist brethren in BLM are Leftists scum.....

We KNOW from experience that you scum will not hesitate to ATTACK someone who is rendering assistance to an "injured" person....

They did the prudent thing knowing how disgusting you all are.
Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
4155 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:50 pm to
prog much?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95666 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Then why were the officers arrested?


Don't be a child - do you see the environment we're in now?

But, they're going to walk and there will be no rioting when they do.

Ole boy was CLEARLY in the wrong. And, even if he got really hurt, he flopped for the cameras and it went bad.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Then why were the officers arrested?


Politics
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Now imagine that’s it’s a 75 year old man, the “object” is obviously a cell phone and as he lays on the ground bleeding the group of 30 somethings in full riot gear step right over him.
no ya jagoff Nazi wannabe, the object in his left hand is the controller of the "blood" dispenser.

Why don't you move along and off yourself doing all of civilization a huge favor

President Trump is president of you ingrate bastards also
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112898 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:30 pm to
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Because?

Unless you believe the ambulance and EMT workers were also in on this fake conspiracy thing, then him on a gurney with a wrap around his head obviously proves he was bleeding from his head.

EMT wouldn't wrap your head in gauze if you're not bleeding from the head.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2714 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:07 pm to
You can chose your actions, Putting your hands on a police officer during a riot, but you can't chose your consequences, getting knocked on your arse and cracking your skull.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2380 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Now imagine that’s it’s a 75 year old man, the “object” is obviously a cell phone and as he lays on the ground bleeding the group of 30 somethings in full riot gear step right over him.


They didn't just step over him. One cop called out he was injured and started to check him. Another cop grabbed that one and got him back in position because it wasn't his job to provide medical aid, it was their job to maintain their line.

They immediately called for a medic. Within seconds two people in military gear, I assume they were National Guard medics, started taking care of the guy.

Neither cop intended for him to fall over and smack his head. I can guarantee almost every person on this board would have pushed him away if he were in their face like that, I know I would.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26524 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:34 pm to
Do you support Antifa? BLM? Marxism?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 7:24 am to
quote:

What facts?
The facts that are apparent at the top of this thread.

The facts that this "protester" faked his injury with a "blood" dispensing system

The FACT that people like you DO NOT DESERVE THIS COUNTRY with your continual attacks on the USA
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:12 am to
Average length of hospital stay for skull fracture is probably around 4-6 days.

Old boy has been in the “hospital” for 11 days.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47619 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:18 am to
Sadly, this type of chicanery has happened before. Remember the oxygen tank lady at the Trump rally?

If you don’t like people questioning motives, stop sending dem operatives into rallies and protests to fake violence.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:29 am to
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Average length of hospital stay for skull fracture is probably around 4-6 days.

Old boy has been in the “hospital” for 11 days.


So where is this guy?
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3437 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:30 am to
I remember that. They caught her at home and she was crying in front of the camera saying how she faked it and it was wrong.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:36 am to
The only reports that I can find that he was in ICU then moved to the rehab wing of the hospital come from a public defense attorney FRIEND of Mr. Gugino.

Where is this Mr. Gugino located? Has it been independently corroberated that what his attorney friend is saying is accurate?
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