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re: Tulsi Gabbard has fired the director of the National Intelligence Council, Mike Collins

Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:37 pm to
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If the left can set asylum hearings 10 years out with "parole w/benefits" the right can deport them and give them 10 years of all the due process they can handle back in their home country.


Thanks for the thoughtful response. You know more about this than I do. The deport, THEN give them hearings is an ingenious idea.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75189 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:46 pm to
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People who publicly contradict or undermine their boss usually don’t stay in their job too long.


That's certainly one way to look at it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 9:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 10:19 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:36 pm to
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That's all on the Executive Branch to cure. Temporarily hire an additional 3,000 Immigration Judges...Or deputize military lawyers/judges to be temporary Immigration Judges.


First off pulling 3,000 immigration judges out of a hat is a delusional pipe dream of a liberal order. Second off there are a bunch of cry baby bitches in this thread already. You want more kindling for their fire then feel free to “deputize military members”……JFC dude!
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23221 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:42 pm to
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Head of FEMA - fired one day after voicing concerns for shutting down FEMA


FEMA is a disaster and I’m pretty sure you know that. Everyone in that agency should tread lightly.

Again I think you are smart enough to realize there are probably plenty of federal bureaucrats that deserved to be fired before undermining their new boss, so no need to address the rest of your post.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75189 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:54 pm to
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FEMA is a disaster and I’m pretty sure you know that. Everyone in that agency should tread lightly.

Again I think you are smart enough to realize there are probably plenty of federal bureaucrats that deserved to be fired before undermining their new boss, so no need to address the rest of your post.

Yeah, that fired FEMA director is a former Navy SEAL and defense contractor executive appointed by Trump. He was fired a day after honestly answering a question he was asked during a hearing.

ETA: That Copyright Office Director was asked to do that study/report on AI's threat and impact on intellectual property. If you don't know why that is a hot button issue these days, do some reading. We essentially have big tech (including Elon Musk) lobbying for an end to IP laws so that AI can fully mine them without being hassled by such things as the law. That isn't good for anyone who isn't already a billionaire.

And this guy from the NIC seems to have been fired over this report that goes against the use of the AEA. The report wasn't even wholesale against the idea, but only stated that they could not find a direct link to Maduro.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 11:04 pm
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11393 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:19 pm to
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In doing so, we don't have to make stuff up such as "TDA is run by the Venezuelan government!" ...


No one is saying that. Maduro allowed TdA members to be released or not prosecuted if they went to the US. The Venezuelan government does not have to "run" TdA in order to direct the invasion. It's not as complex as you are making it out to be.

Maduro even admits that he directed TdA to the USA.

The only ones having a problem with the admin removing bureaucrats trying to stop the agenda the American people voted for are the same people that have been crying about Trump for years.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29232 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:08 am to
I hope she fires whoever put her on the do not fly list.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18040 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:13 am to
Trump has got people in the white house doing the same shite, I hope they're going behind the door investigating to expose all of em
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18040 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:20 am to
shite you don't need a fricking PHD to figure out what's happening, just look around at who's trying to keep all these frickers here
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18040 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:23 am to
Dan Crenshaw was a Navy Seal too,
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:32 am to
Venezuela is 7 miles from us here in Trinidad, we now have about 10-15% of our population who are Spaniards (what we call Venezuelans). Lots of family on both sides.

We howled with laughter when the vaunted "intel agencies" of the US said tda is "a rival" of Maduro.

You think this is the US where he has to fight hundreds of federal judges to do something? He is a dictator. He has defiantly stood up against the US, but he cant handle a gang?????

He uses them to help with his drug business in the country, but they are gophers for the military who runs it domestically, and internationally he uses both the military and his family.

So its only natural when he wanted to thumb his nose at the US he would instruct the military to liase with some NGOs in the states and get free transport, food, and lodging for tda to the states.

Where do you think he got the idea his bff chini. They send the fentanyl to do the same thing, undermine the US.

Instead of firing them, they should be in Gitmo getting water boarded so we find the link between their arrival and the US govt through the NGOs.


Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 4:34 am to
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Write the reports to back me or GTFO, loser!
wasnt aware our intelligence agencies' job was to leak memos to the press but whatever you say i guess
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:32 am to
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The truth is what I say it is, goddamnit!
Well .... let's see.
What does the report ACTUALLY say?

Even according to the WaPost's TDS-infested hit piece, the intel council report admits evidence for exactly what Trump contends.

The report admits there is
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intelligence suggesting that Venezuelan regime leaders are directing or enabling Tren de Aragua migration to the United States.
The report admits
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The FBI assesses that some members of the Venezuelan government help facilitate Tren de Aragua members’ entry into the United States
The report admits
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that Maduro and his associates occasionally tolerate the group’s activities within Venezuela itself, but eye it warily as a potential threat to the country’s stability and their hold on power


So, regarding your "truth is what I say it is, goddamnit!" bullshite, and given the above FACTS readily acknowledged, the pretzelized report conclusion is that although TdA is a dangerous group, although Maduro et al do work cooperatively with TdA on some things, although there is intelligence suggesting that Venezuelan regime leaders are directing or enabling Tren de Aragua migration to the United States, that Maduro is concerned about TdA operations within Venezuela and would therefore not seek to encourage exporting that problem out of Venezuela.

Now then, if that last bit of "logic" makes sense to you, I've got a "whores peeing on a bed in Moscow" story that'll knock your socks off.

We know, despite MSM claims to the contrary, POTUS came to a conclusion regarding TdA based on significant evidence and available intel. The fact that a faction within the intel community endeavored to assimilate a contrarian set of facts is fine. It could actually be a healthy effort to ensure all sides of the issue are considered. It could be. But it isn't.

The fact members of the council chose to make their subjective conclusions political, then arranged leaks allowing TDS media access to their opinions in the report, is inexcusable. It is a breach of trust. It's damaging to the advice and consent process. Hopefully there will be identifications of the leak source(s) and prosecution of it/them.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 6:23 am
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:03 am to
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trinidadtiger


Sounds like the FBI intel summary is right on the ball while the NSC was a deliberate attempt at malicious compliance. Go Tulsi go!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37608 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:07 am to
So Loomer is direction policy at just about all levels.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:11 am to
Boosie and SFP crying reading this
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:21 am to
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Sounds like the FBI intel summary is right on the ball while the NSC was a deliberate attempt at malicious compliance. Go Tulsi go!
pretty much.

As I said in a previous post they parsed some words by saying Maduro isn't directing TdA (in America). That doesn't mean he didn't, as a nation state, have a role in this.

The NSC used the media, with leaks, to parse that wording to make the case to reject the AEA. The legal community will latch on to those parsed words and try and carry the ball across the goal line.

The goal line is Trump impeachment in 2027. A field goal will be slowing these deportations down to a trickle, using the judiciary, until they can re-district (using the judiciary) and take the House and pass prohibitive laws that will have to be heard before SCOTUS as infringing upon Article II powers.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23398 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:28 am to
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This is a difficult subject for me. There are a couple of old, former CIA guys who make the rounds in alt media, Ray McGovern and Larry Johnson. They say the problem with the CIA the last few decades is the realists get run out and the yes men who tell the bosses what they want to hear survive and advance.

That’s not at all the problem with the CIA and no one believes that position to be the truth.

The problem starts with the fact that they view themselves and act as an independent agency above the law and beyond the oversight of the public and our elected officials.
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The issues in this thread don't necessarily pertain to CIA, but the question here for me is, are these NIC or NSC guys who are telling the administration that Venezuela is not directing an invasion: (a) realists fighting an out of control delusional administration; or (b) rogue, deep state agents who are opposing a populist president at any cost? I really have no idea. I think Tulsi is one of the only competent people in this administration, so I tend to give her the benefit of the doubt. But, she could just be a MAGA stooge now.

The people running the government in nearly all branches are co-opted to a specific worldview completely antithetical to that of the current administration.

You are free to support one or the other, but it’s been made clear through words and actions that they are commited to subverting Trumps agenda through whatever means they have available and are being fired as a result on a weekly basis when they get caught.

It’s Trump and his cabinet against the establishment and this is just another border skirmish in that ongoing war.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 6:40 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115478 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:29 am to
What this tells me is that Trump learned his lessons from his first term
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