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re: Tucker interview with Mike Benz on USAID scandal. Discussion of how to move forward

Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:09 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16685 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:09 am to
Bunk,

I see your point, we need the influence. But the mission statement has been totally convoluted.

Instead of using that influence to further our goals of a better economy in the US through commerce, more democracy abroad. We now use it for individuals to become wealthy, promote our own personal nonsense like trans, etc. And pretend its for democracy.

JP Morgan's favorite quote theres the right reason (democracy) and there is the real reason (personal greed and power).

Same with the MIC, same with FBI. Its like the collapse of Rome, Ill get mine before its all gone.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156396 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:15 am to
It is a long podcast but the timestamps make for easy skipping around for those familiar with Benz.

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Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
24902 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:30 am to
To fix it, one sentence is the answer, DO THE RIGHT THING If there is graft and corruption.., end it. Cut off the funds get rid of the employees and PROSECUTE THE GUILTY.

Shine the light on them all.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:59 am to
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This is not what is happening. The people you are claiming are just political foes have done serious damage.

They released and lied about covid. They cost a large number of small businesses to close. They arrested people for minor crimes and gave them such harsh sentences that some killed themselves. They let our loved ones die alone while they intentionally infected them.

They stole from us and used our money to trans kids. They funded riots and left wing activists. They overthrow foreign governments. They stole an election and tried to imprison and kill a president.

Do you not understand the severity of their actions? They are CRIMINALS, not political opponents. It is not retribution. It is justice. If there is no punishment for the crimes, they will do it again.

Being too scared to take action because of what the democrats might do is the old way of thinking. It didn’t work. It's time to grow a pair and try something new. Change will never happen by worrying that you're doing too many things the people trying to destroy you and your country won't like.


This guy gets it
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:09 am to
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No one cares. Not caring what progressives think and taking a reckingball to their political money laundering schemes isn't authoritarian. Stop being a bitch and let the adults handle this one.


I don’t think you fully understand what I’m saying.

Yes we HAVE to take the wrecking ball to them. We have to destroy it all. But so much evil is going to come out of this, so many unforgivable things have been done, that there will have to be justice and mass acceptance, or we will not be able to continue as a country. The normie left has to be brought in (not the radicals, they have to go to prison).

We can’t continue on with the things that have to be done, and half the country thinking we are complete enemies and not believing any of the findings being uncovered right now. On the flip side, after it all comes out and people do believe it, we have to manage the full scale anger and rage of people knowing where their money has gone.

The only way I can see that real justice is served that will be sufficient to give a sense of justice is with trials and then life in prison or even execution. That is absolutely going to be seen as authoritarian.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25241 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:16 am to
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but also opens the eyes of the normie left 

So about 3 people? If people's eyes aren't open at this point after watching the Democratic Party try to hide the President of the United States, the man who is supposed to run the free world, for the better part of 4 years so that Americans wouldn't see his obvious mental decline, then they are either retarded or don't care how low their side goes to stay in power.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:19 am to
So what do we do with them?

I’d be ok with splitting the country, but I don’t think that’s in the cards right now. But them continuing to be as they are is too dangerous at this point. So, what do we do with them?
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31919 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:49 am to
quote:

maybe transgenders were the vehicle to drive change in Bangledesh.


Giving a frick about what happens in Bangladesh is part of the problem.

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86400 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:49 am to
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don’t think y'all understand how big the ramifications of this are and are going to be


Did you support the lawfare against Trump and his allies?

Member when they tried to put him in prison for life and you’re expecting lenience?

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14465 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:51 am to
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The element that worries me is there is potential for an unavoidable economic collapse over these 4 years and it could happen as soon as this year.

What is your speculation based on?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14656 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:54 am to
I honestly think people should hang for this. Alot of people.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
1779 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 8:58 am to
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The element that worries me is there is potential for an unavoidable economic collapse over these 4 years and it could happen as soon as this year. The administration will have to make very wise decisions, and even then it’s not guaranteed they can navigate it. Bad indicators all over, but especially in Europe


WTF are you even talking about?
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
13765 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:00 am to
There can’t be half measures - they
pay back from the left if they get back power will make the last four years child’s play.
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Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2610 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:14 am to
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We can’t continue on with the things that have to be done, and half the country thinking we are complete enemies and not believing any of the findings being uncovered right now. On the flip side, after it all comes out and people do believe it, we have to manage the full scale anger and rage of people knowing where their money has gone.


People can manage their own reactions. It's not up to "we" to do anything for them. The fate of the country doesn't hinge on their reactions. Their fate does, and that's on them.
This is no longer Pussy Nation, this is FAFO Nation.

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The only way I can see that real justice is served that will be sufficient to give a sense of justice is with trials and then life in prison or even execution.

Absolutely true.
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That is absolutely going to be seen as authoritarian.

Absolutely irrelevant.

It's time to rip bandaids off.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4598 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:14 am to
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Your reaction is a good example of what I’m talking about. I larp as a quasi fascist on here some, but what you’re describing as basically ruthless vengeance is going to result in right wing authoritarianism. Is that really what you want? I’d rather have a new cultural genesis personally.


The problem with your thought process is that you think we have a lot of time to fix this when in reality we have 1 year to truly expose everything. This is because we HAVE TO primary the rino senators up for re-election and cause the Dems to lose seats in both the house and senate. If we do not carry this momentum in to the next congressional election, this is all for nothing. In fact it is worst because if the globalist take back control, they will hit us with a death blow. America will be dead. If they take back power in 2 years, they’ll make Trump a lame duck president and tie him up with impeachments and etc. Then they’ll steal the next presidential election.

THIS IS NOW A ZERO SUM GAME. One side will not walk away from this due to what is being exposed. Either Trump and his team win and tie up the loose ends with Vance the next 8 years or the uniparty gets in and makes sure this never happens again. They will jail everyone in this administration for threats to democracy and we the people will have some serious choices to make. Based off what we saw with Covid, the people will bitch and complain while leaving the few true patriots out to dry.

Trump did the cardinal sin and cut off their money. He didn’t just cut the money off to the corrupt politicians but he did it to the bureaucracy, globalists, intelligence community, military high command and foreign countries. He is now shining a light on all the corruption and they don’t have an answer for it. They never thought this would happen and they will make sure it never happens again.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:17 am to
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What is your speculation based on?


I’m not saying it for sure is going to happen. Some people out there are speculating it will though.

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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
35521 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:21 am to

It really is a firehose of corruption and incompetence from the prior admin and well beyond , going back years if not decades.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132598 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:42 am to
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I'd much rather see a political movement centered on the positive program than the retribution against political foes and people with ideological differences.


Besides removing a bunch of security clearances from anti-Trump intelligence officials, for good reason, there has been no retribution against political foes unless I have missed something. Any names?

Has Trump weaponized government against his political foes like the Democrats have been doing for the last 8 years?

I view this as a badly needed correction. A reset if you will.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16546 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:47 am to
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only people remotely ready for a reveal of the magnitude Benz is tracking followed a long deleted thread, and even with that foresight , I’m not sure if those minds won’t get blown.

There are some truths that are deeply traumatic to confront and I’m not talking about purple haired Starbucks barista “traumatic”, I mean grown men crying over what they’ve done.

The American public will need mass therapy if the full graphic truth of what’s been going on is exposed.

It’s horror movie bad and biblical good vs evil stuff.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43012 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:56 am to
This thread is excellent

Thank you


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