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Homesick Tiger
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Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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So some Dems voted to support Trump's EO?


No. Only 41 out of 53 Repbs. voted yea.


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Volatile
Memphis Fan
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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And that, my friends, is why the GOP always loses when it has control. Zero solidarity in the party to get shite done. OTOH, Democrats vote in lock step with what their party overlords demand.


Funny thing is the Democrats say the exact opposite.


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rds dc
Colorado Fan
Member since Jun 2008
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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need 67 to over ride a veto.......


Yep. Nate Silver nailed this one by going 10-13 votes against Trump but no path to the 20 needed for 67. Also, a couple of the Rs that voted "yes" today are already facing significant backlash back home.


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Ebbandflow
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Member since Aug 2010
11633 posts

re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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And that, my friends, is why the GOP always loses when it has control. Zero solidarity in the party to get shite done.


It's so funny how many of you don't like autonomy.


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mightyMick
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Member since Aug 2018
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See my above post. There is nothing wrong with any of them. It’s a production, it’s a performance, it’s theatrics. None of it’s real.


BS, they voted, it's real, and it's going to get plenty real when Tillis comes up for re-election.


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MrLarson
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
This is the reason nothing gets accomplished in DC. This was nothing but virtue signaling because they know they don't have the numbers to override his veto.


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Blizzard of Chizz
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Member since Apr 2012
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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Well, actually... this will now be tied up in court for a while. And the courts can take these votes into account, and you know they will.


On what grounds? Congress granted him the authority. They voted to block it. It got vetoed. Congress now has the option of overiding his veto, and there are rules in place exactly for that. If they can’t reach the threshold of 67 votes, the bill is dead. That is how our system of govt works. You don’t get to run to the courts every time something passes or doesn’t pass.


MrLSU
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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Rob Portman, R-Ohio
Susan Collins, R-Maine
Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska
Mike Lee, R-Utah
Marco Rubio, R-Fla.
Rand Paul, R-Ky.
Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah
Lamar Alexander of Tennessee
Roy Blunt of Missouri
Susan Collins of Maine
Mike Lee of Utah
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Rob Portman of Ohio
Mitt Romney of Utah
Marco Rubio of Florida
Patrick J. Toomey of Pennsylvania
Rand Paul of Kentucky
Roger Wicker of Mississippi
Jerry Moran of Kansas


I'm shocked absolutely SHOCKED I tell ya!

Jerry Moran wrote his official explanation in ink!
This post was edited on 3/14 at 2:45 pm


cajunangelle
Navy Fan
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
I am sick of the Romney cucks.


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Brosef Stalin
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Member since Dec 2011
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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Purely symbolic

Not entirely. The narrative now is that even Trump's own party doesn't support him and that Trump is a tyrant for going against the will of Congress. This will give fuel to people like Ryan and Kasich that might try to primary Trump.


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thetigerman
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
Uh, yeah you do go to the courts. They get to decide if it’s legal. That’s kinda their job.


MeatCleaverWeaver
Georgia Fan
Member since Oct 2013
5972 posts

re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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And that, my friends, is why the GOP always loses when it has control. Zero solidarity in the party to get shite done.


Winner winner frickin chicken dinner! This country’s screwed!


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AggieHank86
Texas A&M Fan
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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This is nothing more than Cocaine Mitch giving cover to republicans in battleground states. Trump will veto it and Mitch will drive a stake through its heart by making sure no vote to override it comes to the floor.
Interesting question. The statute requires a vote in each chamber of Congress with regard to a Resolution to override an Emergency Declaration, but it fails to specifically mandate a vote on an override of a Presidential veto. 50 USC 1622(c).

To the contrary, it seems that
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the House of Representatives or the Senate complies with the constitutional requirement to “reconsider” by laying the measure on the table (essentially stopping further action on it), referring the bill to committee, postponing consideration to a certain day, or immediately voting on reconsideration (vote on override).
Interesting


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NoMoreKnees
Southern Miss Fan
Hartselle, AL
Member since Jan 2017
104 posts

re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
This is what I have found.

Sens. Mike Lee, R-Utah;
Rob Portman, R-Ohio;
Susan Collins, R-Maine;
Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska;
Marco Rubio, R-Fla.;
Rand Paul, R-Ky.;
Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.;
Roger Wicker, R-Miss.;
Roy Blunt, R-Mo.;
Jerry Moran, R-Kan.;
Pat Toomey, R-Pa.



Crimson1st
Alabama Fan
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
7075 posts

re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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12 republicans crossed the aisle and voted with all the Dems.


So yet again the Dems stay in lockstep and it is left up to the Republicans to vote on principles, no matter how misguided those principles are.


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AggieHank86
Texas A&M Fan
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
9708 posts

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Smart move on McConnell's behalf. He now has the defectors on record.
Vote was mandatory, pursuant to the terms of the NEA. See my post from a few minutes ago.

The interesting issue is a vote on veto. Assume for the sake of argument that enough Senators indicate a willingness to override the veto. (Yes, unlikely).

Does McConnell prevent a vote, or does he let the vote happen?


Blizzard of Chizz
Auburn Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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Uh, yeah you do go to the courts. They get to decide if it’s legal. That’s kinda their job.



What part of Congress granted him the authority do you not understand? The courts don’t get to override Trump’s veto of a bill congress passed. Congress gets to override vetos. They will either get 67 votes and override his veto of the motion or they won’t, in which case the veto stands. Now if Congress wants to go to court and challenge the legal authority they gave to the President to make emergency declarations, go for it.


CelticDog
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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why the GOP always loses when it has control. Zero solidarity in the party to get shite done. 


A dozen who prefer that congress gets to decide spending bills as per Constitution, not the fuhrer.



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thetigerman
LSU Fan
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Member since Sep 2006
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
Stop being obtuse. You know damn well at the very least the state of CA will file for, and very likely receive, an injunction in federal court BECAUSE ITS NOT A frickING EMERGENCY!


GumboPot
USA Fan
Member since Mar 2009
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re: Trump's Emergency bill goes down in Senate
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Rob Portman, R-Ohio
Susan Collins, R-Maine
Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska
Mike Lee, R-Utah
Marco Rubio, R-Fla.
Rand Paul, R-Ky.
Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah
Lamar Alexander of Tennessee
Roy Blunt of Missouri
Susan Collins of Maine
Mike Lee of Utah
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Rob Portman of Ohio
Mitt Romney of Utah
Marco Rubio of Florida
Patrick J. Toomey of Pennsylvania
Rand Paul of Kentucky
Roger Wicker of Mississippi
Jerry Moran of Kansas


Rubio voted twice?


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