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re: Trump wants to make new law re: fake news media

Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:50 am to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19373 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:50 am to
Free speech doesn’t give you an automatic license to disparage someone, the reason people get sued. You can ask abc and nbc about paying off their debt to Trump
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:51 am to
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nawlinstiger, c on z, VOR



These eunuchs are literally shaking while watching Maddow.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77779 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:51 am to
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Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.

Odd. I don't recall such a hard line defense of free speech when we wanted to talk the prospect of election fraud in 2020...

... Or the possibility of injuries sustained from the COVID shot...

... or potential corruption on the part of Biden's family
..

... or the veracity of the contents of Hunter's laptop(s)...

... or Biden's mental fitness to serve as FauxTUS...

... Or who was really running the country for 4 years while Biden's sweeping ice cream parlor tour & Delaware Beach inspection carried on.

I'm sure I missed those posts from liberals, right?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10715 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:53 am to
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So much for being an advocate of free speech. Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.

Donnie starting to sound awfully European with wanting to go after publications in the courts


You really are a fricking idiot. Liars should face consequences. He is not "making a law". He is talking about suing them. That is his right.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15572 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:56 am to
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If Trump isn't grown up enough to deal with the barrage of negative info that comes at him, then maybe he should have stayed in the private sector. Anonymous sources are part of the game....a lot of time those sources come from the inside.

Anonymous sources report that Tigerdroppings user 'KiwiHead' is actually a child molester who has been known to rape children as young as 3 years old. Sources say that he is also one of the largest online traders of child pornography on the entire internet.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 7:57 am to
Higher bar for people in the public sphere vs people who were subjected to harassment who did not put themselves out there only to be subsequently trashed.

Once you become a public figure, and Trump is a public figure, your not afforded those protections. Plus Giuliani created a situation where those women having their privacy invaded and their physical well being threatened as part of the campaign to try to overturn.....audit the Georgia results.

Plus, the two are not the same. Giuliani was not acting as a member of the press or eve a writer. He was acting an advocate for Trump.Trashing private citizens

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23831 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:04 am to
This is great! Freedom of press is much different than spreading known lies and propaganda.... REPEATEDLY! I understand we have freedom of speech, but the MSM propaganda machine doesn't provide news, it's all an editorial.

They must be held accountable. It must be stopped.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30266 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:05 am to
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So much for being an advocate of free speech. Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.

Are you retarded? Lies and defamation are free speech? Do you even hear yourself, Margaret?
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1252 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:06 am to
This I can agree on:


* Repel Section 230 protecting Facebook / TikTok
* Make all anonymously news articles sourced Flagged with warning at top and states on able to verify.
* Investing where the fake news are getting talking points and exposed as bias and pull licensees.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93421 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:06 am to
Idiot from the upside down thinks it's ok to broadcast fake stories and lies
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Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4789 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:07 am to
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Imagine being a dumbarse like nawlinstiger, c on z, VOR etc believing these anonymous sources



No, thank you.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:08 am to
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Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.


It's also libelous which is prosecutable.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23969 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:11 am to
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We like our governmental interference with our information sources, do we?


At one time.. for a few hundred years…the media policed itself reasonably well. That died. There is a serious issue when national media not only publish, but also embrace, these types of things.

If you look at Google there are numerous daily stories that are entirely negative toward Trump. C take a second look at most are opinion pieces and often cite anonymous sources or insiders to give their opinion some element of credibility.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:16 am to
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Giuliani was not acting as a member of the press or eve a writer.


In my eyes, the Press should be held to a higher standard.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77779 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:30 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77779 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:32 am to
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State supported media MUST be stopped, NOW.

Watch how many "legacy" media outlets fold and how many talking heads lose their jobs between now and the midterms in 2026 because the cash spigot of USAID has dried up.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77779 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:34 am to
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Trump seemed to face a lot of false allegations from “insider” anonymous sources in his first term. It’s a great cover for the journalists: print something libelous, knowing it isn’t true, just to harm Trump, and use an unverifiable anonymous source as your excuse. You can say whatever you want.

Then Congressional committees use the reporting as a basis to open investigations with unlimited taxpayer resources to seek to uncover crimes.

It's circular reporting, and what Drunk Grandma Pelosi referred to as "the wrap up smear".

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Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:35 am to
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If you look at Google there are numerous daily stories that are entirely negative toward Trump.


That's the reason the 1st Amendment exists. We don't need to protect media outlets that wear kneepads for the government, we need it to protect the ones that are critical of the government.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77779 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:35 am to
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part of the campaign to try to overturn.....audit the Georgia results.


Eyebrow deep in the Kool-Aid, I see.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5446 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:39 am to
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Fake news and "dishonest" books and articles are free speech, too.


No, they certainly are not. You cannot publish anything you want if it defames someone else and costs them. We have laws about that.

It amazes me how many people do not understand free speech. You are protected from the government persecuting you for your beliefs and speech. You are not protected from libel or slander actions, and you are sure not protected from your peers thinking you are a dumbass and/or talking right back to you.
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