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re: Trump tax return decisions coming shortly SCOTUS 7-2, 7-2

Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:30 am to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:30 am to
Trump should not be mad about either of these decisions.

Both will be tied up well past the election, taking those issues (and the ability to leak/misuse the information off the table).

Vance still allows for objections as to the merit/scope/need for the records - which would only go to a grand jury and there are significant rules on the secrecy there.

Mazers actually does recognize a "heightened" standard for congressional subpoenas on non-official documents of the Executive under separation of powers, one that Trump will likely prevail on in the end.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 11:04 am
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24684 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
I don’t get you guys. I’m conservative - and agree with this decision. As our President, he is not above the rest of us. Period. Regardless of party, religion, etc.

This is how government works.

And . . . IF the President did something wrong here financially, he should pay for it - maybe at the expense of his presidency.

No one is above the law.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
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Can't Trump mark them Confidential or Proprietary to preclude theiree release to the public?
There is almost CERTAINLY a confidentiality order in place regarding these dox, unless his attorneys are completely incompetent. The sycophant squad will now chorus that his attorneys ARE incompetent for losing this case. Nonsense. They never had a chance. The challenge was not about "winning," it was about "delay." SOMETIMES, a delay IS a win.

But the potential long-term problem is "leaks."
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 9:33 am
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12459 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
From everybody's tone, it is as though you believe there is something earth shattering in the man's tax returns. Other than the fact he refused to release them, any basis for believing there is something damning there?

I doubt his tax return says: $1 million dollar kickback to Putin and $500k hush payments to mistresses. What is the big concern?
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
15732 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
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You guys know that Trump is going to get routed in November.


Do you guys plan to stop killing kids in inner cities before then?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
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Fat Boy Stirewalt



Hoss Cartwright
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24836 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:31 am to
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The Court basically punted both back to the lower courts. Neither of these Will be done anytime soon.



That is true. Trump will be long re-elected and out of office before this is a final decision. Now, the next guy to hold the office? He won't be so lucky and I know there is an enterprising DA on each side of the aisle already mapping out how to make a name for themselves.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:32 am to
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You guys know that Trump is going to get routed in November.




2016 wants its headline back

Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39920 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:33 am to
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The potential problem is "leaks."

That's certainly going to happen
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:33 am to
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You guys know that Trump is going to get routed in November.


What kind of terror on this people are you planning when this doesn't happen?
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15732 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:34 am to
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I say that about Roe, all the time.


You're happy the SCOTUS messed up to fit your political view?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30998 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:34 am to
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But the potential long-term problem is "leaks."

Good thing we haven’t had any issues with this recently.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7680 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:34 am to
Trump wins because they won't get any documents any time soon.

This reality will not stop Democrats from running around claiming that the court ordered Trump to release his tax returns and he should do so immediately.

Of course any delay means he thinks he is above the law and a dictator who ignores the Supreme Court.
Posted by beastieboys
South Jordan, UT
Member since Jan 2008
2193 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am to
Everyone knows there is something damning in the returns. Prosecutors in NY CAN and WILL see his returns. It’s over. His fraud will come to light. His returns will leak like every other massive bombshell to leak from his sinking ship.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am to
So technically neither a win nor loss but it is good for Trump as it prevents Democrats from releasing and using his tax returns against him prior to the election.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am to
Both of these decisions are pretty narrow and the guidelines they gave ensure that this will be tied up way past November, probably for years, so in that sense it's a wash or a win for Trump.

The most damaging case this term was Gorsuch and Roberts agreeing that transexual employees are covered by discrimination based on sex.

Disappointing to see so many second amendment cases punted on, but if Trump wins in November that'll be a blessing as we can get 2-3 more conservatives on the court and finally expand and preserve our second amendment rights.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
13272 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am to
This is going back to Court. Far from over!
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17294 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am to
Decatur is POSTIVE there’s a 1099 attached from Puuutin

This is so fricking absurd
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42132 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:35 am to
These pronouncements are psychological justifications for future witch hunts. Create an aura of invincibility for Biden, then when he doesn't win, something nefarious must have happened to prevent what seemed inevitable.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7854 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:36 am to
Their website is calling it a win for Trump.

Fox is saying that it's a blow to the president.

confused.
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