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re: Trump tax return decisions coming shortly SCOTUS 7-2, 7-2

Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
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The chief rejects the "demanding standards" proposed by the president and the solicitor general.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24462 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
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Rejecting a heightened need standard does not leave Presidents without recourse. A President may avail himself of the same protec-tions available to every other citizen, including the right to challenge the subpoena on any grounds permitted by state law, which usually include bad faith and undue burden or breadth. When the President invokes such protections, “[t]he high respect that is owed to the office of the Chief Executive . . . should inform the conduct of the entire pro-ceeding, including the timing and scope of discovery.” Clinton, 520 U. S., at 707. In addition, a President can raise subpoena-specific con-stitutional challenges in either a state or a federal forum. As noted above, he can challenge the subpoena as an attempt to influence the performance of his official duties, in violation of the Supremacy Clause. And he can argue that compliance with a particular subpoena would impede his constitutional duties.


Looks like they will be in court for another 3-4 years before any tax returns need to be turned over.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
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It is legally the right decision

Yup, now corrupt da’s can attack a president politically using the power of their office.
So you fix the underlying laws that allowed the subpoena.

That ain't SCOTUS's job.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167343 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
well the headlines show a loss but name one media outlet that will report the details.
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
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Roberts giveth...and Roberts taketh away...
How exactly did Roberts' become the impact vote on this case?

It was 7-2
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
And you didn’t plagiarize anything, I’m sure.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39918 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
Just because Fatty Stirewalt says he lost, doesn't mean it's true. Stand by for Baier and Wallace to arrive and chime in on Trump's immediate demise.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
13047 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:25 am to
Great, time for all candidates for public office to be required to do this, Senate, House, Dog Catcher. Burn it down. Shine the light on the finances of all the swamp scum.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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But, he says, the House's approach "fails to take adequate account of the significant separation of powers concerns raised by congressional subpoenas for the President's information."


Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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The Court has vacated the decisions below in Mazars, and it holds that congressional subpoenas may be enforceable but that the courts below did not take account of all the possible separation of powers concerns. The case will this go on. So this issue is back in the hands of the DC and Second Circuits for now.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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I set forth the legal analysis on this case for y'all ... many months ago. This opinion confirms that I was correct.

Come on, you can admit it.


You are a sharp guy and I appreciate your contributions
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39665 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
Trump should immediately demand Biden's and Hunter's Tax Returns. Since personal income is an Campaign issue, IRS should be directed by Barr to cough it up. The American Electorate has a right to make an educated choice.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115384 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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How exactly did Roberts' become the impact vote on this case?


He wrote both opinions
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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I cannot recall a single time when anyone posted "Well, SCOTUS sure fricked up that decision and they have no understanding...but, I am happy they are so stupid!"
I say that about Roe, all the time.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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CNN is already saying they're not interested, they've gone to debating whether Trump mad because his appointees joined lol
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:27 am to
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I say that about Roe, all the time.



I wasn't posting here when that ruling came down
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3769 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:27 am to
The Court basically punted both back to the lower courts. Neither of these Will be done anytime soon.

I’ll say this about the Robert’s Court. They would be Hall of fame punters in the NFL.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 9:30 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:28 am to
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How exactly did Roberts' become the impact vote on this case?

It was 7-2
HMB (Harvard Man Bad)
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:29 am to
Can't Trump mark them Confidential or Proprietary to preclude theiree release to the public?
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:30 am to
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Roberts lays out a new four-factor test in Mazars, and that will have to be applied initially on a remand to the DC Circuit. The DC Circuit will determine how rigorous a test it is in the first instance.


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As Eric outlines below, this is basically a Goldilocks approach. The test proposed by the president and the SG is too tough. The House test is too lax. The court outlines a set of "special considerations" that the courts should take into account on remand and sends the cases back to the lower courts for further consideration. So I am going to take back my suggestion that this is more of a win for the president than Vance -- I think it's basically the same. In this set of cases and the Vance case, we are going to have more litigation, and no one is going to see any financial documents any time soon.
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